Tuesday, July 10, 2012

Operators are standing by


My correspondent notes: "Funny how it sounds like a used car lot or Shamwow commercial. 'While supplies last!'"
I'm pretty sure they will.

1L orientation starts at Drexel in 33 days.

 From: Drexel University Law <lawadmissions@drexel.edu>
Date: Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 
Subject: Apply Now - Scholarships Available!
To:




Dear [      ], 
Thinking about attending law school?  Why wait another year!  There’s still time to apply to the Earle Mack School of Law for Fall of 2012.  Only a few seats remain, so apply soon!  And, there are still a few scholarships available. Applying online is free!  So what are you waiting for?  Apply now!
Issa
Isabel "Issa" DiSciullo
Assistant Dean for Admissions





Contact: Earle Mack School of Law at Drexel University, 3320 Market Street, Suite 100, Philadelphia, PA 19104

69 comments:

  1. Matriculate now and we'll also throw in $1000 worth of obsolete textbooks free!

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  2. "Scholarship" is kind of a misnomer in these circumstances.

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  3. positively criminal behavior.

    it's infuriating that drexel had the nerve to form a law school when about half of philly's grads couldn't find jobs as things stood before. moronic.

    repurpose that building for the benefit of drexel's esteemed engineering program. drexel, villanova, and widener are all on death watch.

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  4. If it weren’t so sad, it would be funny.

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  5. Formatting is messed-up (photo extends into the side-bar). Anyone else see this?

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  6. I hope Gmail will put a spam tag on this stuff soon.

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  7. PS - who was it who said that excessive use of exclamation marks was the sign of a diseased mind?

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  8. The images will bleed over into the right side bar when it is larger than the width of the main column (where the text resides) in most browsers. A CSS mod could address the issue, but I'm assuming such action is one of the only things LP cannot do (/snark). Easy fix is to either resize the image or pull it from the post. Carry on.

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  9. But wait, there's more!

    We offer lots of financial aid [Read: student loans] to qualified students [Read: anyone with a pulse].

    Don't take our word for it. [insert name of prominent person] said "a law degree opens a lot of doors and is very versatile."

    And look at all these famous people who went to law school or became lawyers: Gandhi, Clarence Darrow, Abe Lincoln and 12 other presidents.

    You can't be a winner if you don't play. Spin that wheel Mr. Lucky.

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  10. Actually, what's really interesting is that there don't seem to be any LSAT/GPA requirements or minimums, so it really a "Order now, we can't do this all day!" type of promotion.

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  11. I really wonder what this year will bring for the law schools. Information will slowly slip out regarding seats filled, but I wonder how bad it really is (vs. how many foolish kids signed-up where your best chance is 50% to get a job).

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  12. "We take a holistic approach to the admissions process. We read and review everything that is in an applicant’s file and no one component is more important than the other. We certainly want to make sure that the applicant is academically ready for the rigors of law school, so we take a very close look at their academic profile – their LSAT, GPA and curriculum. However, we’re also looking for students who will be active members of our community and give back to the institution through participation/leadership in our student organizations and, eventually, our alumni programs. Therefore, we also take the information shared in the applicant’s resume, letters of recommendation and personal statement into consideration."

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  13. I'm holding out until they throw in a designer Italian leather briefcase. I mean, a girl has to have her priorities!

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  14. I wannafreetoaster, too!!!!

    (Wow - 8 discrete sentences, 4 punctuated by exclamation points.)

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  15. Buy a toaster, and we'll throw in a law school, absolutely free!

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  16. If these animals cared about their grads, Drexel should be providing a free annual subscription to Westlaw and a fully paid one year premium of malpractice insurance for all the dupes that will wind up with no job offers and no choice but to hang a shingle. Welcome to the race to the bottom of this profession. Look to your left, you have LegalZoom. Look to your right, you have Shpoonkle. On your mark, get set...you already lost this race kid.

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  17. > And look at all these famous people who went to law school...

    You forgot Geraldo Rivera

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  18. One more commode is offering up little turds to entice the lemmings. This is beyond pathetic.

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  19. That building would make some sweet condos.

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  20. "That building would make some sweet condos." YES!

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  21. F!cking Rivera,

    Brooklyn Law School's cafeteria in it's billon dollar student housing tower was called Geraldo's after that ass-hat.

    For this triviality I sold myself into debt slavery.

    F my life.

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  22. Look to your left, you have LegalZoom. Look to your right, you have Shpoonkle. On your mark, get set...you already lost this race kid.

    Someone should start a Shpoonkle for law schools. "I'm looking for a legal education from an ABA accredited school. I got 157 on the LSAT and have a 3.4 GPA at Bucknell. Send me your best prices."

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  23. At orientation they should tell everyone "look to your left, and then to your right. When the three of you graduate only one of you will be able to get a real legal job."

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  24. First year enrollment for 2011-2012 was 48,697. This is a decline of about 6.8% from the previous year. If this decline continues for the next five years first year enrollment will be 33,523. That would be the lowest since the 1969-1970 school year in which 16,733 JD / LL.B's were awarded. Given the size of today's law schools that is enough to support only around 20-30 law schools. It looks like it is getting about time for a lot of law schools to go bye bye.

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanbar.org%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Faba%2Fadministrative%2Flegal_education_and_admissions_to_the_bar%2Fstatistics%2Fenrollment_degrees_awarded.pdf

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  25. 1. Open law school in saturated city at height of law school bubble.

    2.

    3. PROFIT!!!!

    Act now and we'll throw in free career services advice!

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  26. At orientation they should tell everyone "look to your left, and then to your right. When the three of you graduate only one of you will be able to get a real legal job."

    Even that is overly optimistic for Drexel. More like "look to your left, your right, in front, behind, and over each shoulder. Only one of you will get a real legal job."

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  27. "It looks like it is getting about time for a lot of law schools to go bye bye."

    That's what I would call a good outcome.

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  28. @8:54AM

    I take it you were being sarcastic since of Gandhi, Clarence Darrow, Abe Lincoln - only Ghandi actually attended what could be called a law school. FDR actually dropped out of law school (you too could be a law-school dropout and rated as one of the United States 3 greatest presidents), Tyler did not go to law school (you to could be rated a terrible president), John Adams did not go to law school, nor did John Quincy, Polk, etc.

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  29. That shore is a purty buildin'.

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  30. @11:28

    The T14 represents about 4,600 JDs a year, the T20 abut 6,500 - that is probably more than enough associates for the Law 250 at say 20-30 hires a year across the Law 250. Essentially the US job market can support around at most about 50 law schools (more if some are much smaller than the T14 schools), but possibly less because the annual outflow of lawyers would quite likely fall off if the inflow and the vicious competition it creates fell.

    Drexel looks like it is going down the pan with a desperation play like this - and it is just 5.25 miles, 10 minutes drive from Rutgers-Camden - there in a race to see which one closes first.

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  31. So in the last week LP has identified that two of the six law schools in the Delaware Valley are literally buttonholing prospects in the street and offering "one time only, just for yoy" deals that would shame a Veg-a-matic pitchman to try to fill their seats. Of the others, one (Widener) is a perennial bottom feeder that placed one, yep one, 2011 grad in a law firm larger than 100 lawyers according to LST, and another (Villanova) has been sinking in the rankings since it was revealed that its higher ranking was the product of outright fraud. This is grim. And Philadelphia is traditionally strong legal market. What is it like elsewhere?

    RPL

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  32. Don't leave out both Weidner campuses, Villanova, and Duquesne.

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  33. And two Penn State (Dickinson) campuses and Pitt as well. Though Duquesne and Pitt are in an entirely different market.

    RPL

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  34. @ 11:45 Actually the Drexel orientation should say: "Walk up to the corner and look to your left. Thats Penn Law School a block away. They will get jobs. You will not."

    RPL

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  35. FDR actually dropped out of law school (you too could be a law-school dropout and rated as one of the United States 3 greatest presidents)

    Three greatest presidents. LOL.

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  36. A quick review of Drexel applicant status over at Lawschoolnumbers reveals that NONE of applicants have indicatrd that they are attending! It is July!

    The school must be in panic mode.

    I can't wait to see how things unfold for Drexel and other bottom feeders in August!

    http://drexel.lawschoolnumbers.com/applicants

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  37. Tax and spend Liberal Policies have created this mess. Academics are mostly all elitist Boomer era Liberals and socialists and social Marxists, if not outright America hating Communists.

    Obamacare will ruin this nation, and Student Loans are no better.

    Not every kid gets a trophy and not every kid is special.

    It is time we all return to Regan Conservatism and stop bleeding the honest and hardworking US taxpayer citizen.

    Anyway, that seems to be the Conservative viewpoint, although the conservatives are reluctant to discuss student loans very much, and one has to wonder why?

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  38. @12:50 Um, no. From Wikipedia: Reagan followed his 1981 tax cut with two large tax increases.[7] In 1982 Reagan agreed to a rollback of corporate tax cuts and a smaller rollback of individual income tax cuts. The 1982 tax increase undid a third of the initial tax cut. In 1983 Reagan instituted a payroll tax on Social Security and Medicare hospital insurance.[8]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics

    I voted for him. I think he was better than FDR. But he RAISED taxes. And his spawn, GB I raised them, too.

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  39. How does this theory sound?

    Basically, and according to the Conservative Pat Buchannan, the Communists that fled Nazi Germany came to America and went to work on liberalizing American society.

    They triumphed during the 1960's with their Communistic Counterculture, and then the America hating Liberal Academics all took over the Universities and over time forced the taxpayer to fund their lavish and elitist lifestyles at the expense of the US taxpayer.

    The nihlistic liberals wiped out the humanities and prospered as well.

    The only problem now is that the money is running out and the liberals are not young and cool anymore.

    They are rather old and getting more and more dependent, and soon to be on long term health care.

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  40. @12:57PM

    Call up Rush or Sean Hannity on their radio shows, and I bet they will respond very well to what you say, and with a finger on the mute button.

    It doesn't matter really, because elections are influenced by mass media of whatever political affiliation, and not by the likes of us.

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  42. When's the last time an accredited law school closed its doors (without being merged into or acquired by another school)? Has it ever happened?

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  43. Can we not let this degenerate into a political slap-fight?

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  45. Cripple Fight!!!

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  46. @1:16

    Antioch School of Law closed in the 1980's. It appears the were running out of money and about to lose their ABA accreditation.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1987/02/08/us/antioch-teetering-on-perilous-edge.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

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  47. Thanks for the lead on Antioch. Fascinating story. From a WaPo article dated 10-20-85:

    "Founded as an alternative to traditional law schools, Antioch operates as a public-interest law firm, requiring students to earn about a third of credits by handling cases for low-income clients. Its founders, Edgar and Jean Cahn, had operated a similar program at George Washington University, which was dropped by the faculty there."

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  48. My old bosses went to Antioch and loved it.

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  49. From a 5-23-88 WaPo story:

    "As Earnestine Oliver Brown stepped across an auditorium stage yesterday, she held the swaying gold tassel on her cap with one hand and reached for a long-stemmed red rose with the other. In that instant, the beaming 37-year-old mother from Florida became the final graduate of the Antioch School of Law.

    At the close of yesterday's emotional four-hour commencement, Antioch formally shut its doors. A loss of funding was the final blow for the controversial school, which was established in the District in 1972 as a 'public interest law firm.'"

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  50. The remnants of Antioch were taken over by what is now called the David A. Clarke School of Law: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_A._Clarke_School_of_Law

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  52. Antioch's closure was prompted by the board of its host university. It appears the law school was not bringing in nearly enough to support itself. How low will the number of applications need to drop in the current climate for a law school to become a net cost to its host university?

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  54. Antioch lobbied hard and managed to get itself effectively absorbed by the University of the District of Columbia (UDC) where it is called after a late DC Council Chairman -the Dave Clarke School of Law. I think the corporate entity sort of vanished, but the faculty simply shifted to the UDC payroll. Law faculty are sort of like cockroaches - they manage to survive even when their students wind up ...

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  55. Can't wait for the enrollment numbers at schools to start coming out. I could not be happier that law schools are getting a taste of their own medicine. Thank you Law Prof for your part in getting the word out.

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  56. Not to be stick in the mud, but you can't make this stuff up. All at 6.8 or 7.9%...

    "Caleb Mason, an associate professor of law at Southwestern Law School, has written a 19-page law review article on how the Fourth Amendment factors into the second verse of "99 Problems."

    The whole piece, which was published in the Saint Louis University Law Journal, is available as a PDF here."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/10/99-problems-law-review-article-jay-z_n_1662922.html

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  57. Perfesser Mason has to keep his resume fresh for when the inevitable finally happens.

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  59. Heavy student debt screws up your brain, I guess.

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  60. @3:14 PM

    Do you really think Mittens is going to come to your rescue?

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  61. god dang, jdpainter, please stop writing things.

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  62. Thirded. Jd painter not write good English.

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  63. "Whaddya mean, my writing sample has 'issues'?"

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  64. "A bad salesman will automatically drop his price. Bad salesman make me sick"
    -Sam Stone, Ruthless People

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  65. I received an email from Seton Hall yesterday with a similar message - "Fall 2012 enrollment is a possibility for you. A small number of seats and scholarship opportunities remain available."

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  66. Off topic, but Mack, would you mind (of course you wouldn't) refreshing everyone about your accomplishments, background, salary, time spend on international flights, etc.

    Thanks--we need our fix.

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  67. I GOT THE MICROWAVE!

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  68. @834 - Yea, like they would be emailing round if they just had a few possible places open . . .

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