tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post8731371305707375477..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: This market belongs to you and meLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger95125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-10170384573733011892012-12-30T10:13:28.389-08:002012-12-30T10:13:28.389-08:00How to Prepare for ged book 2011 Test through Pre ...How to Prepare for <a href="http://www.gedbooks.org/ged-books/" rel="nofollow">ged book 2011</a> Test through Pre GED Test Options That WorkAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06174157687212464551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-38287402317816899272012-10-17T13:49:07.024-07:002012-10-17T13:49:07.024-07:00I'm an entertainment attorney, in-house at a s...I'm an entertainment attorney, in-house at a studio. (I graduated in 2011). When we and other studios are looking to hire assistants, execs, paralegals, contract administrators, etc., we will not consider JDs. So I don't think a JD helps you in the entertainment biz, unless you're applying for an attorney position. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-25388262852964216692012-10-17T11:54:02.944-07:002012-10-17T11:54:02.944-07:00How is Obama responsible for the fact that you don...How is Obama responsible for the fact that you don't have enough work to justify hiring anyone?Xenoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07102195851970595827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-10722451996922269202012-10-16T21:05:03.143-07:002012-10-16T21:05:03.143-07:00It is so much worse for more experienced grads. T...It is so much worse for more experienced grads. The numbers are not out. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-76005505916510559462012-10-16T17:57:12.770-07:002012-10-16T17:57:12.770-07:00Well, I've read that somewhere it is said that...Well, I've read that somewhere it is said that the last shall be the first. So let me know when y'all have started commenting on this here post, and I'll revert and start the comments with one that is just as pithy, on-topic, and scintillatingly worth-while as you might expect the ultimate or at least penultimate comment to be.<br /><br /><br />Or not to be.<br /><br /><br />That is the question.The Omega is now The Alphanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-36150966305348245942012-10-16T16:13:55.803-07:002012-10-16T16:13:55.803-07:00I forgot to list NYU and columbia. IF I remember c...I forgot to list NYU and columbia. IF I remember correctly both of those have plus 400 people. HOW about asking schools to reduce to at least 200-250 at minimum? Is that fair?Zmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07892614819916522150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-2355568133309352332012-10-16T15:59:32.720-07:002012-10-16T15:59:32.720-07:00Not really. Due to mandatory curves and the fairly...Not really. Due to mandatory curves and the fairly subjective nature of essay-style exam grading, working harder and/or being smarter does not correlate with being in the top 25%.<br /><br />I'm not saying grading is so random that an A+ could be graded as a D- just as easily. But I know of many stories where people compared exams and could not figure out why one was an A and one was a B+.<br /><br />There was even someone I heard who submitted their paper, got a B+ initially, then because of lost paperwork or such, resubmitted THAT EXACT SAME PAPER to be regraded and got like an A!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-90169923888169193322012-10-16T15:44:39.864-07:002012-10-16T15:44:39.864-07:00Yale actually pays a larger percentage of its clas...Yale actually pays a larger percentage of its class than Harvard does--10.7% of the Yale class of 2011 had school-supported, FT-LT jobs, while another 3 grads (1.5%) had FT-ST jobs supported by the school. But some of Yale's public interest fellowships are longer standing, so I didn't use them as my example. I wanted just one of the "HYS" so as not to focus too much on that group.<br /><br />Stanford has just a small number of school-funded positions, at least for 2011: Just 3 FT-LT positions (and no ST or PT ones) out of a class of 192.DJMhttp://moritzlaw.osu.edu/faculty/bios.php?ID=38noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-66556320339114401742012-10-16T15:38:39.244-07:002012-10-16T15:38:39.244-07:00There has been no relevant change in the number of...There has been no relevant change in the number of judicial clerkships: 42 in 2008 and 41 in 2011. The big changes seem to be decline in positions at firms over 500; increase in three smallest categories of firms; increase in government/military (nonclerkship); and increase in business/industry (which can include doc review companies).DJMhttp://moritzlaw.osu.edu/faculty/bios.php?ID=38noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-29486464400074204502012-10-16T15:33:25.629-07:002012-10-16T15:33:25.629-07:00I worked in LA from 2001-2007, and my practice was...I worked in LA from 2001-2007, and my practice was about 1/3 entertainment law. I do not recall ever meeting a UCLA/USC type grad in the kind of position you're describing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-17758857283783659272012-10-16T15:20:41.540-07:002012-10-16T15:20:41.540-07:00My personal anecdata is that my overall income is ...My personal anecdata is that my overall income is lower now than when I was at Biglaw (and later, Mediumlaw). However, I make between $30-$220 an hour more now (depending on the client), as a "contract lawyer" who writes briefs for other lawyers, than I did at my last law firm job. My hourly rate is lower now than it was then, but getting to keep 100%, and not having to deal with opposing counsel or (hardly ever) go to court, is a sweet deal for me because I'm an introvert and also because I am got way too burned out to care anymore about maximizing my income. <br /><br />That said, the only reason this lifestyle is possible is geographic arbitrage. I work from home, in a very low-cost region of a country with national health care and free higher education, so I don't have to worry about health insurance or college funds for the kids. I couldn't work this way if I'd stayed in the States. For most people, their lifestyle goes WAAAAYYYY down after Biglaw, especially if they wash out (as I did) before the loans are completely paid off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-89017881704654402692012-10-16T14:16:44.789-07:002012-10-16T14:16:44.789-07:00it does seem schools like Virginia, UCLA, Georgeto...it does seem schools like Virginia, UCLA, Georgetown and maybe even HARVARD!! should start having smaller classes.Zmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07892614819916522150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-62836903874180222202012-10-16T12:33:21.877-07:002012-10-16T12:33:21.877-07:00testtestAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-37332594126036544122012-10-16T11:24:02.219-07:002012-10-16T11:24:02.219-07:00HFS it's a free blog no one can take it seriou...HFS it's a free blog no one can take it seriously!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-27604117557814551812012-10-16T11:21:27.095-07:002012-10-16T11:21:27.095-07:00In what way(s) should or could Nando "grow a ...In what way(s) should or could Nando "grow a pair"? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-45314460378011758512012-10-16T10:43:43.653-07:002012-10-16T10:43:43.653-07:00The 25th percentile is falling. The 25th The 25th ...The 25th percentile is falling. The 25th The 25th percentile represents one person, and we know that 25% of the class makes less than that one person.<br /><br />In 2008 Penn probably had 80% of students making 142K or more. If it's only 70% now, the 25th percentile grad falls outside of that BigLaw window, where salaries drop precipitously. Penn's class size is pretty small, so a difference in BigLaw placement of just a handful of people can make all of the difference. <br /><br />You are correct that a few salaries of zero, if reported, would drop the figure. Doesn't look like Penn does this though since on their site they indicate the number of salaries reported underneath the number of employed grads, indicating a subset.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-40496985494579133412012-10-16T10:27:23.138-07:002012-10-16T10:27:23.138-07:00Can you explain this further ? We know about the ...Can you explain this further ? We know about the bimodal nature. What we don't know is why the bottom quartile is falling so rapidly in the past 3 years?<br /><br />Wouldn't it take a substantial increase in the number of grads in the bottom 25% ( which ignores the unreported) to drop that number so drastically in 3 years? Do you have to have a salary to be counted as employed? I can imagine a few salaries of zero would drop this number?<br /><br />Or am I misunderstanding again?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-11973846339144078592012-10-16T10:05:48.963-07:002012-10-16T10:05:48.963-07:00"That would take a hell of a lot of judicial ..."That would take a hell of a lot of judicial clerkships."<br /><br />Given the bimodal nature of salaries it wouldn't take many. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-17181392743178987842012-10-16T09:59:11.467-07:002012-10-16T09:59:11.467-07:00If you check the ABA Employment link above you wil...If you check the ABA Employment link above you will see that Y and S are also paying grads to workAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-47352093852210159032012-10-16T09:28:40.501-07:002012-10-16T09:28:40.501-07:00Not to be a statistics twit, but what DJM is descr...Not to be a statistics twit, but what DJM is describing is the 75th percentile. That might be part of the confusion. <br /><br />If the 25th percentile were 60k, that wouldn't be great, but it's not devastating. A collapse like that at the 75th percentile suggests a wholesale wipeout of an entire generation of newbie lawyers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-36605173369127005932012-10-16T09:20:36.527-07:002012-10-16T09:20:36.527-07:00how many UCLA/USC grads work in LA type firms wher...how many UCLA/USC grads work in LA type firms where you really don't need the JD but you can the job easier if you have one. jobs in the entertainment industry and so on. I have heard them make this argument and it doesn't show up on their employment when counting JD required jobs but still make good money.Zmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07892614819916522150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-13286244524540153362012-10-16T08:32:48.117-07:002012-10-16T08:32:48.117-07:00My pay from my 1st year summer at BigLaw and my 2n...My pay from my 1st year summer at BigLaw and my 2nd year summer covered my tuition in law school as a 2L and 3L and my 20+ hour a week clerkship in a white collar crime practice in my last year of law school paid my living expenses. That was 20+ years ago now. A year or two's savings between college and law school and a little help from my parents paid for my 1L tuition.MacKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10442386017204584747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-31547197855051591252012-10-16T08:25:48.682-07:002012-10-16T08:25:48.682-07:00And if your offer is from a branch office outside ...And if your offer is from a branch office outside the headquarters city you need to avoid that office (or in my case twenty off years ago two different BigLaw offices) imploding before your start date.MacKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10442386017204584747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-2875999183705851682012-10-16T07:48:54.378-07:002012-10-16T07:48:54.378-07:00...whine?
Never?...whine?<br /><br />Never?When do you stop needin cheeze to go with yournoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-61502234916007511792012-10-16T07:43:27.218-07:002012-10-16T07:43:27.218-07:00"Is it possible to find the list of a school&..."Is it possible to find the list of a school's graduating class online anywhere?"<br /><br /><br />Yes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com