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Thanks for all the feedback.I WAS tha...Please help!<br />Thanks for all the feedback.I WAS that gulliable. I made a bad choice and I am just trying to figure out what my best option is at this point. Anyways, the lady that I spoke to at the time was the one who told me that if I couldn't pay, it wouldn't really hurt me if it went the Chx system. She said it would buy me sometime until I did have the money. I do not go to Thomas M. Cooley School of Law...i dont know if u meant that to be a joke or something- I made a bad decision and dont worry, I am paying for it. Please dont judge peoples actions if you don't know the surrounding cricumstances. Thank you for your feedback.|just buy everything they need and put it in storage while the rest of us who live paycheck to paycheck have to start paying the tax imediately?I'm a Senior at my undergrad and seriously contemplating law school. I've already gotten my letters or recommendation together and I have a decent GPA.I'm taking the LSAT in June.hvac school in albamahttp://hvactrainingpro.com/hvac-schools-in-alabama/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-79597459386975629302011-12-07T13:07:21.758-08:002011-12-07T13:07:21.758-08:00To me transparency is simple and not all that comp...To me transparency is simple and not all that complicated. You simply need two sets of bar graphs, one for positions, one for salary. The bar graph would divide by reasonable categories between permanent/temp, JD-required, etc etc.<br /><br />And then you simply need to account for EVERY SINGLE GRADUATE. If information for a graduate is not known, it gets put in the unknown graph, however large that graph is.<br /><br />Its not that complicated!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-60374039261981031112011-12-07T04:16:38.171-08:002011-12-07T04:16:38.171-08:00I applaud this measure. It will soon be obvious t...I applaud this measure. It will soon be obvious that law school really is a good investment, especially once the job market turns around. Maybe that will cut down on the whinging.nycnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-12189270456929335962011-12-06T21:23:10.007-08:002011-12-06T21:23:10.007-08:00BL1Y - any part of the cut is a problem. Have you...BL1Y - any part of the cut is a problem. Have you worked one of these jobs? Pretty nice to talk about it from your armchair. Again, middlemen getting any cut for almost no work off of debt slaves is not what I would call advantageous to anyone but the middlemen. There are all sorts of economic implications that I have no desire to go into.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-51324614693255304762011-12-06T20:47:55.811-08:002011-12-06T20:47:55.811-08:00@7:24: I agree it's a shitty job, especially c...@7:24: I agree it's a shitty job, especially considering the amount you have to pay for entry into it, but the problem isn't doc review companies taking too big of a cut.BL1Yhttp://www.constitutionaldaily.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-6040774513173273142011-12-06T20:06:15.743-08:002011-12-06T20:06:15.743-08:002:33 - and then we could start a whole new blog: I...2:33 - and then we could start a whole new blog: Inside the Law School Scammers Scam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-5328685241439621282011-12-06T19:49:37.335-08:002011-12-06T19:49:37.335-08:005:34, There goes the whole "work for a hedge ...5:34, There goes the whole "work for a hedge fund to make bucks" nonsense eh? Sorry about the double post I was trying to get it past the size filter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-62165717846968193012011-12-06T19:24:48.988-08:002011-12-06T19:24:48.988-08:00BL1Y - what part of no future, job security or ben...BL1Y - what part of no future, job security or benefits do you not understand?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-8130308362820295002011-12-06T18:51:49.832-08:002011-12-06T18:51:49.832-08:00http://www.news-sentinel.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...http://www.news-sentinel.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111206/NEWS/111209813Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-4499201763938131162011-12-06T18:37:31.503-08:002011-12-06T18:37:31.503-08:00BL1Y wrote: "I wouldn't be surprised to ...BL1Y wrote: "I wouldn't be surprised to see more in house directly hiring doc review firms, and then handing the docs over to outside counsel. Should give the doc reviewers a little more money."<br />--------------------<br /><br />You are dreaming. Even if that happens with in house directly hiring doc review firms, don't expect any extra to trickle down to doc reviewers. The money per hour that doc reviews get is a function of the plentiful supply of willing debt slaves available.<br /><br />If they won't work for the rate offered, there are plenty of doc review shops opening in India that will do it cheaper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-45359019924266662402011-12-06T17:34:38.572-08:002011-12-06T17:34:38.572-08:00@1:49, 1:50
Incredible! Just incredible-$12/hr.@1:49, 1:50<br /><br />Incredible! Just incredible-$12/hr.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-89270437907728059002011-12-06T17:03:19.396-08:002011-12-06T17:03:19.396-08:00@4:06: In that situation, the agency isn't the...@4:06: In that situation, the agency isn't the problem, as @3:04 suggests. The agency is giving you 45%. It's hard to find any company that will do that.<br /><br />The firm passing on a bigger bill to the client makes the pay look much worse, but that's really a failure of the agency to negotiate a better rate, or for the client to do the same.<br /><br />You could look at associate pay the same way. You take home 27% of what the firm makes, but probably less than 1% of what the corporate client earned from your work.<br /><br />Clients are becoming much more cost conscious though, and I wouldn't be surprised to see more in house directly hiring doc review firms, and then handing the docs over to outside counsel. Should give the doc reviewers a little more money.BL1Yhttp://www.constitutionaldaily.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-17858188253338512032011-12-06T16:06:16.555-08:002011-12-06T16:06:16.555-08:00The size of the pie is a problem.
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