tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post8016855932740248288..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: A note on the reliability of the employment data reported by law schoolsLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger83125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-60256149221189485332013-02-26T05:32:31.601-08:002013-02-26T05:32:31.601-08:00Awesome review. I got to your blog from yahoo whil...Awesome review. I got to your blog from yahoo while i was looking for job search. I will turn over your site to other people and I am sure they will think the same about your article on this site.Atlanta Lawyer Jobshttp://www.bcgsearch.com/legalmarketsinfo.php?id=39noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-46219511896318984952013-02-25T01:25:19.972-08:002013-02-25T01:25:19.972-08:00Well, you see, um, DJM and LP are hypocrites.
Def...Well, you see, um, DJM and LP are hypocrites.<br /><br />Defense rests. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-15345680281157745832013-02-25T01:21:21.144-08:002013-02-25T01:21:21.144-08:00Leiter, seriously now, this is getting awkward.Leiter, seriously now, this is getting awkward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-86391554660871663222013-02-24T23:30:10.269-08:002013-02-24T23:30:10.269-08:00I know ... concussions!
kinda liked this, too: &q...I know ... concussions!<br /><br />kinda liked this, too: "I wish I had a Sports Law medallion from Marquette Law School"<br /><br />http://jdunderground.com/all/thread.php?threadId=41591Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-29630990604368160952013-02-24T20:52:18.012-08:002013-02-24T20:52:18.012-08:0011:52
The Denney quote in the National Jurist is ...11:52<br /><br />The Denney quote in the National Jurist is hilarious. He deems sports law to be a "red hot" field, but then defines sports law so broadly that it encompasses any sort of case involving an "athletic client." <br /><br />"Of course there are many programs dedicated to sports administration, but an attorney doesn’t necessarily need to be an expert in that field to land a job in the practice area. The attorney could have experience in areas such as advertising, contracts, intellectual properties or business acquisitions, to name a few. The expertise comes from the specific area of law and then applying it to the athletic client,” Denney said.""<br /><br />http://www.nationaljurist.com/content/sports-law-makes-hot-list<br /><br />So, you know, a criminal defense attorney is practicing sports law, whether he or she knows it or not, in representing some college football player on a DUI or a domestic battery. I wonder if attorneys in that position regret not having studied Sports Law at the Santa Clara Institute of Sports Law and Ethics.<br /><br />dybbukAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-53245783061054713312013-02-24T20:00:02.131-08:002013-02-24T20:00:02.131-08:00sure, 19%.
No 20-year forgiveness, btw.
You pl...sure, 19%. <br /><br />No 20-year forgiveness, btw.<br /><br />You play, you pay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-44241776028934898032013-02-24T19:46:52.066-08:002013-02-24T19:46:52.066-08:00NOR would I WANT to be: "The Oscar in this c...NOR would I WANT to be: "<b>The Oscar in this category can be awarded to Santa Clara, which in 2010 and 2011 reported that 102[!] of its graduates were unemployed but not seeking jobs nine months after graduation, as compared to 29 unemployed graduates who were looking to acquire employment "</b><br /><br />C'mon, Stevie man, what's your "logical" answer to this kind of pure bilge water?<br /><br />Please! We're anxiously awaiting your explanation in defence of your law school.<br /><br />Please, Stevie? Help us understand... Pleeeeze.I am NOT Steve Diamond, nor wouldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-78368298482317918222013-02-24T18:54:39.022-08:002013-02-24T18:54:39.022-08:00Very nice post, thanks for sharing the information...Very nice post, thanks for sharing the information. Keep up the good work.<br /><br /><b><a href="http://www.impactrecon.com/about/reliability-jobs/" rel="nofollow">reliability jobs</a></b>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695709857866884044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-32740005983813731692013-02-24T13:18:15.184-08:002013-02-24T13:18:15.184-08:00Funny you referrence Pace. This is a school with a...Funny you referrence Pace. This is a school with a faculty member that developed a ranking of law schools by "Law Professors on Twitter." Guess where: Thefacultylounge.org.<br /><br />I am not joking. <br /><br />Again, just so we all understand: A law professor at a hideous, 4th tier overcharging private law school, devised a ranking of law schools by the number of professors that tweet, and defended her actions in the comments. You can't make this stuff up.<br /><br />And see comments asking what the f**k she was doing navel gazing like this while her graduates, whose tuition dollars presumably funded this nonsense by paying her salary, and you'll get a true sense of the disconected, entitled, and concretely pernicous attitudes (and ignorance) of today's mediocre law school professor.<br /><br />http://law.pace.edu/faculty/bridget-j-crawford<br /><br />http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2012/07/census-of-law-professor-twitter-users-beta-version.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-30633298360364181302013-02-24T12:42:40.168-08:002013-02-24T12:42:40.168-08:00In the interest of accuracy FIU really is a better...In the interest of accuracy FIU really is a better law school then Ave Maria. FIU does not have an essentially open admissions policy-- it consistently rejects over 20 percent of applicants. Look it up.<br /><br />I grew up in Miami and work in the profession, albeit in DC. University of Miami reigns in the region, with FIU coming in second. My friend who works at a small law firm in Miami said that his firm considers new hires from UM and FIU but doesn't even look at the other South Florida schools. It is true that if we expand the region, UF and FSU are considered better than FIU. But locally FIU really is in a much better position than Ave Maria, Nova, Barry, etc. <br /><br />I am no defender of the law school status quo. I fully support the scamblog movement. But let's not get sidetracked with false information, as there is plenty of correct data with which to make the points we want to make.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-30814519762313456132013-02-24T11:52:18.999-08:002013-02-24T11:52:18.999-08:00Nope, you don't need to be an expert in sports...Nope, you don't need to be an expert in sports law to handle personal injuries. In fact, you don't need to be an expert at all:<br /><br />“[Sports law] could even involve — now with all this concern about concussions — the medical area and personal injury claims,” Denney said ... an attorney doesn’t necessarily need to be an expert in [sports law] to land a job in the practice area. The attorney could have experience in areas such as advertising, contracts, intellectual properties or business acquisitions, to name a few.<br /><br />http://www.nationaljurist.com/content/sports-law-makes-hot-list<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-53382603218508729952013-02-24T11:41:00.156-08:002013-02-24T11:41:00.156-08:00"Law school rankings should come down to a ra..."Law school rankings should come down to a ratio between graduates holding full-time, bar-required employment and total graduates in any given year."<br /><br />Just one suggestion: PAID employment. If you are an intern in a government office, you're probably there full-time without being paid. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-54849701722590291412013-02-24T11:36:17.108-08:002013-02-24T11:36:17.108-08:00The schools continue to get away with it because o...The schools continue to get away with it because of the deliberately vague words they use. Which is why those lawsuits don't get anywhere. <br /><br />They are obviously not going to act on this on their own and professional/bar associations don't seem to be in a hurry to deal with it either. All that can be done is, spread the word, either online like this or personally if you're aware of someone contemplating law school. <br /><br />If people know the true job picture and decide to go to law school anyway, that is their business. But they should know the realities first, and they don't.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-75588956185837222942013-02-24T11:35:32.808-08:002013-02-24T11:35:32.808-08:00This is 11:33. I meant the Dean at Ole Miss!This is 11:33. I meant the Dean at Ole Miss!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-48849272834675822102013-02-24T11:33:43.814-08:002013-02-24T11:33:43.814-08:00According to the Dean at UNH there is a serious sh...According to the Dean at UNH there is a serious shortage of lawyers serving the middle class on Mars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-39266170022619501392013-02-24T11:29:58.914-08:002013-02-24T11:29:58.914-08:00Can there be any more potent example of supply-and...Can there be any more potent example of supply-and-demand than a licensed professional willing to work for nothing just to get some experience to sell?<br /><br />When Chandra Levy disappeared a woman called nto a local talk radio program hereabouts and said that she had worked for the feds in DC at one point. Based on that, she said that almost all these young people coming to DC for internships were there to angle for a permanent, paid position, and that "you'd better believe that some of these young women are willng to use their sexuality to get one."<br /><br />And the funny thing is, Chandra Levy was a PAID intern and was still willing to make "that extra effort" to get a job. How far will some unemployed JDs go above and beyond working for free?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-50719937157856399852013-02-24T11:28:15.074-08:002013-02-24T11:28:15.074-08:00Yeah, and so much sports law in Vermont and NH, to...Yeah, and so much sports law in Vermont and NH, too. Tenure from Day One, too.<br />http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2013/01/annoucing-unh-law-sports-and.html<br /><br />The center will also offer courses in Publishing Law, Video Game Law and Sports and Intellectual Property Law, because there are so many publishing and video game firms in New Hampshire.<br /><br />http://www.tnhonline.com/law-school-adds-new-sports-and-entertainment-institute-1.2980955#.USs6Yzcf-vM<br /><br />But if that doesn't work out, there's always space law, taught at that world aviation center -- Oxford, Mississippi.<br /><br />http://www.wdam.com/story/21098191/ole-miss-launching-air-space-law-degree<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-9454338866811596022013-02-24T11:23:08.947-08:002013-02-24T11:23:08.947-08:00Good point; nobody's up-and-coming anymore. W...Good point; nobody's up-and-coming anymore. When I was practicing in South Florida several years ago, FIU was sending (some) people to biglaw and was respected in the area in the sense that reputable firms would hire their grads. I'm sure that's completely changed now.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01310705673888220968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-6628375099916191632013-02-24T11:14:10.017-08:002013-02-24T11:14:10.017-08:00Quite aside from her debt, a one-month job search ...Quite aside from her debt, a one-month job search through walk-ins that led to a starting salary of 60K ... with just 30 other applications ... does not seem that terrible to me.<br /><br />Many people look for far longer, can't do walk-ins (online screening etc.), are competing against hundreds or even thousands of other applicants, and earn a lot less. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-18787740687734257722013-02-24T10:44:22.008-08:002013-02-24T10:44:22.008-08:00Whenever I see talk of "sports law" I wo...Whenever I see talk of "sports law" I wonder to myself how many people in the United States are getting paid to play sports. Add to that number team owners and some officials and that is going to be the total potential client base for sports lawyers. According to BLS in 2010 there were 16,500 pros and the median income was under $50,000.00. The number of players strikes me as a bit low given all of the minor league baseball and hockey clubs out there, but not too, too low. And the total of players in the big four men's leagues is probably about 3,500. Pretty slim pickings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-11146389042895621502013-02-24T10:34:23.831-08:002013-02-24T10:34:23.831-08:00There are three kinds of lies!
Lies
Damn lies a...There are three kinds of lies! <br /><br />Lies<br />Damn lies and<br />Statistics!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-77333324064654443082013-02-24T10:30:41.934-08:002013-02-24T10:30:41.934-08:00The BLS DOES report the EMPLOYMENT rate, and does ...The BLS DOES report the EMPLOYMENT rate, and does so every month along with unemployment rate. In fact, it reports on 6 different measures of labor utilization rates. The press tends to focus on U3, the "headline" unemployment rate, but economists know that that is not the complete picture of labor market health.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-22468268937051702392013-02-24T09:42:21.187-08:002013-02-24T09:42:21.187-08:00I remember this one guy from law school who was a ...I remember this one guy from law school who was a union worker in the railroad industry. He gathered degrees for fun or something. Law school was like his third or fourth grad degree. He had no intention of giving up the union gig. I guess he would be the exception who would fall in this category. Grad school hobbiests are rare.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-34545694961313574982013-02-24T09:37:59.955-08:002013-02-24T09:37:59.955-08:00I think education period needs to be rethought.I think education period needs to be rethought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-3658351919450488592013-02-24T08:35:41.296-08:002013-02-24T08:35:41.296-08:00But America's WorldBest Judiciary Ever(c) foun...But America's WorldBest Judiciary Ever(c) found not even enough hints of fraud to get past a motion to dismiss!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com