tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post5294901951253799435..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: Friendly reminderLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger136125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-24142109460264482352012-12-14T06:15:39.795-08:002012-12-14T06:15:39.795-08:00my sister got admitted with a 138 lsat for the aug...my sister got admitted with a 138 lsat for the august 12 class. her gpa was decent thoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-36582524601045710722012-12-14T05:58:21.968-08:002012-12-14T05:58:21.968-08:00Sounds like a planted comment from their Dean.Sounds like a planted comment from their Dean.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-73449426817641754232012-12-14T05:55:11.059-08:002012-12-14T05:55:11.059-08:00It's not Barry Law School. It's Barely Law...It's not Barry Law School. It's Barely Law School....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-57375646161556272312012-12-13T21:11:19.421-08:002012-12-13T21:11:19.421-08:00Thanks all here - spit-on-screen laughter.Thanks all here - spit-on-screen laughter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-12253449629462387622012-12-12T11:58:11.180-08:002012-12-12T11:58:11.180-08:00@ 11:43
Oh sorry I should have clarified.
$2K pe...@ 11:43<br /><br />Oh sorry I should have clarified.<br /><br />$2K per palm<br />$50K or something per trailer (I think it was higher but let's be charitable here)<br />$??? on that building but probably a couple of million.<br /><br />They also upgraded the paint job around my 3L year because the stark white paint and windows were badly peeling due to the heat and neglect. There's a reason they don't show a picture of the front of the building during the daytime in the pics...only at night (which by the way don't wander around too much in that area at night that's dangerous).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-57459681150382619452012-12-12T11:43:55.052-08:002012-12-12T11:43:55.052-08:00"my money paid for those trees and building (..."my money paid for those trees and building (they were buying em for like 2 grand a pop because they kept dying)."<br /><br /><br />Oh come on, now; now we know you're a flame.<br /><br />Buildings can't die.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-23431402821864467772012-12-12T11:25:11.094-08:002012-12-12T11:25:11.094-08:00@ Rinaldo
This is the same Anonymous. Only someon...@ Rinaldo<br /><br />This is the same Anonymous. Only someone who is in marketing and sales could spew that kind of crap.<br /><br />The problems weren't caused by a transition period and my money paid for those trees and building (they were buying em for like 2 grand a pop because they kept dying). <br /><br />Yes they started to make "mock trial" rooms for the awesome trial team and moot court teams when I was there. This entailed adding wood paneling and nice fixtures to an existing space. But there are about 20 people on each of those teams for a class. They generally fare better employment wise because they get some skills and get hired for govt prosecutor's offices. So 20 people out of the 200+ per class. Those aren't great odds and what benefit does the non-trial team and moot court student get from helping pay for their classmate's success at the expense of their own? I.e. subsidizing a subset of the class rather than focus on improving the lot of the class in general?<br /><br />Yes the water fountain at the front is beautiful. <br /><br />Great story about that fountain. To get a tax credit so they could pocket more money, they made the library open to the public. In the area of Orlando that the school is located in, across from a garden pottery outlet on a major highway and surrounded by the aforementioned trailers, this meant that the "public" who came to the school were the homeless transients from nearby bus stops the city worked so hard to get rid of. <br /><br />This meant that we had a bunch of former Barry grads, I mean homeless transients who would use the library to hang out in during the day, wash up in the bathroom, and generally panhandle on campus. I don't really care but it is rather distracting if you're trying to study.<br /><br />When the fountain is working, really who cares the fountain isn't helping the US News ranking, the homeless people kept using it as a public bath. They had to get the security guys to keep shooing them off and quasi threaten them. After that they realized that if they shut off the water they would go away. Then they'd turn it back on and the word would spread the Barry Law Pool is open and they'd reappear. This cycle kept going for a while and I don't know where it finally ended.<br /><br />Of course those open helpful admin people have an open door policy, the students pay their salaries. I've never seen a salesman greet someone who has money to get treat them gruffly you facetious shill.<br /><br />Individual professors help their students. Not the school's admin. If the schools admin cared they'd actually do something. Like I said, I loved my professors, at least the few that remained because the turnover rate was pretty high (When I started my 1L year I had 6 core teachers, by my 3L year only 1 of those 6 was still there).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-35612129403813198292012-12-12T11:08:39.431-08:002012-12-12T11:08:39.431-08:00I meant schools!I meant schools!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-37390228685419675722012-12-12T11:07:17.294-08:002012-12-12T11:07:17.294-08:00Plausible deniability - the favorite tactic of cro...Plausible deniability - the favorite tactic of crony capitalismAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-52858542010766281422012-12-12T11:06:19.468-08:002012-12-12T11:06:19.468-08:00From what I understand, a lot of these ultra-low r...From what I understand, a lot of these ultra-low ranked schools are more like cram schools, where the student spend three years cramming/memorizing information to help them pass the bar. Top schools teach more theory and concepts, all tests are open book, etc. So I think the law as taught between tiers probably is pretty different. (I mean, it would have been nice not to have to take BarBri to learn the rule against perpetuities and all, but...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-71970160784083516232012-12-12T09:29:44.047-08:002012-12-12T09:29:44.047-08:00"We recently had a massive three story buildi..."We recently had a massive three story building constructed with state of the art equipment and more than five mock court rooms for trial preparation. Our trial team has won dozens of national trial competitions and I'd pit them against any school."<br /><br />Shiny building and top-notch trial/moot court squad. Alex, what are two tell-tale signs of a TTT Toilet charging 5x too much?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-61950037682376995802012-12-12T09:23:13.661-08:002012-12-12T09:23:13.661-08:00"I cannot speak for what the campus was like ..."I cannot speak for what the campus was like prior to my enrolling, but we have one of the most beautiful campuses. Palm trees line the entryway, and there is a gorgeous fountain. "<br /><br /><br />Oh come on now, now we know you're a flame.<br /><br />Palm trees in Orlando - who's going to fall for that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-52416790884759872972012-12-12T08:39:06.584-08:002012-12-12T08:39:06.584-08:00I'm a 3L at Barry Law and I have found the Adm...I'm a 3L at Barry Law and I have found the Administration very supportive. I have worked with Bethany and her team and I can tell you they care about each student personally. Every administrator has an open-door policy with regards to issues or concerns students may have.<br /><br />As for what "Anonymous" posted about the campus experience, I cannot speak for what the campus was like prior to my enrolling, but we have one of the most beautiful campuses. Palm trees line the entryway, and there is a gorgeous fountain. We recently had a massive three story building constructed with state of the art equipment and more than five mock court rooms for trial preparation. Our trial team has won dozens of national trial competitions and I'd pit them against any school. <br /><br />This school has done a lot for its alumni, and I've seen it first hand at the various alumni events they've hosted. While it may have been a difficult situation during the various transitional periods and while awaiting accreditation, it has exceeded my expectations and I am proud to go to Barry law. If you poll the local law firms that have hired hundreds of alums, you'll find they feel the same way. <br /><br /> Rinaldo J. Cartaya IIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10508639114964096425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-51571336680546887832012-12-12T08:04:27.862-08:002012-12-12T08:04:27.862-08:00Not knowing inconvenient and obvious facts is a sk...Not knowing inconvenient and obvious facts is a skill that can be learned. Criminal defense lawyers, for example, are very good at not knowing where the money their clients pay them with comes from. Wall street bankers packaging mortgage loans into MBS were very good at not knowing that the mortgage brokers originating those 1/2 million loans to pool boys and manicurists were making up income figures. The dean of Rutgers camden was very good at not knowing that his school was reporting false information on his students' debt. Its a skill that can come in very handy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-81807863836934862162012-12-12T07:55:09.376-08:002012-12-12T07:55:09.376-08:00"I’m very sorry, the employment number I quot...<b><i>"I’m very sorry, the employment number I quoted earlier is incorrect. I answer hundreds of emails each day and I made a mistake on my response to you. "</i></b><br /><br /><br />Is it within the bounds of reason to believe that of the hundreds of emails she gets each day, so few ask after employment that she (a) had to go look up a number strange to her and (b) looked up the wrong number?Strained Credulity Peasenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-77367228868381115422012-12-12T07:50:34.380-08:002012-12-12T07:50:34.380-08:00C'mon, Doc, don't carp. You asked and got...C'mon, Doc, don't carp. You asked and got an answer. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-7637799776569156282012-12-12T07:34:52.338-08:002012-12-12T07:34:52.338-08:00Ah, yes, the damning difference between "a to...Ah, yes, the damning difference between "a ton" and "a ton plus $30k."<br /><br />I bet whatever underling who reported that was canned for missing the memo.Docnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-88251580328915698412012-12-12T07:20:58.678-08:002012-12-12T07:20:58.678-08:00I know of one: Last spring John Marshall (Chicago)...I know of one: Last spring John Marshall (Chicago) reported that the average amount borrowed for its 2011 class was $30,000 higher than it actually was.LawProfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-13135449661484179082012-12-12T07:16:49.051-08:002012-12-12T07:16:49.051-08:00LAW DEANS, LAW DEANS, WHAT YA GONNA DO?
WHAT YOU G...LAW DEANS, LAW DEANS, WHAT YA GONNA DO?<br />WHAT YOU GONNA DO WHEN THEY...<br />COME FOR YOU?<br /><br />remember, the wheels of justice move slowly, but they do grind fine....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-56949490851985800682012-12-12T07:14:10.235-08:002012-12-12T07:14:10.235-08:00Re: the update.
Has anyone EVER found a situation...Re: the update.<br /><br />Has anyone EVER found a situation where a law school made an "honest mistake" where the school looked worse due to the mistake?Docnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-77413326667441065152012-12-12T06:48:39.657-08:002012-12-12T06:48:39.657-08:00I want to start getting these comments posted from...I want to start getting these comments posted from higher tier schools. We had Michigan lying about the number of grads it hires ( though the perky Dean z protested her innocence, there is no reason she should not have had those numbers at her fingertips, and I believe she did, seeing how they were posted on the website soon after)<br /><br />All of the schools lie and misrepresent data on cost, debt and jobs. I believe they also misrepresent how useful their indidlvidual repayment plans are(LRAP ) . I have never seen any data on the actual number of students a school is helping.<br /><br />I know Northwestern requires you to have a qualifying job at graduation. But that implies that it is possible to get these jobs. We know that they are the most competitive jobs to get. Same with Duke and Virginia I believe.<br /><br />I wonder how many students go to these schos thinking - well if I don't get biglaw, I'll just go on LRAP and ill be fine with my six figure debt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-69172720682056855722012-12-12T06:34:09.194-08:002012-12-12T06:34:09.194-08:00I think you mean f***ing the cash cow.I think you mean f***ing the cash cow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-37599625726091160802012-12-12T06:32:26.714-08:002012-12-12T06:32:26.714-08:00I feel you.I feel you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-29671986523900599422012-12-12T05:23:49.810-08:002012-12-12T05:23:49.810-08:00Don't pick on him. What I take from his diatri...Don't pick on him. What I take from his diatribe is that, in his opinion, yes the physical plant is a dump and the administration are snakes, but he feels he had good profs and got a good education.<br /><br />And who knows? That may well be the case. <br /><br />It's not like the materials taught in law school differ wildly as from tier-to-tier.<br /><br />The biggest problem with a highly credentialed student in a place like Barry is the fact that there's really no competition for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-35528774759025514882012-12-12T05:21:03.328-08:002012-12-12T05:21:03.328-08:00Wait, wait - weren't you supposed to put "...Wait, wait - weren't you supposed to put "tutored" in "air quotes"?<br /><br />Winkie Winkie ;-) ;-)Air Quotes?noreply@blogger.com