tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post5181250090435574086..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: International environmental sports lawLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger95125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-20052515286274486412013-01-15T00:59:00.798-08:002013-01-15T00:59:00.798-08:00McGeorge is known for being a pipeline to DA offic...McGeorge is known for being a pipeline to DA offices, I think.Rasmushttp://time-book.dknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-38707769193434218172012-08-23T03:20:43.674-07:002012-08-23T03:20:43.674-07:00Playing bingo on this site is great fun. It helps ...Playing bingo on this site is great fun. 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He ran MoFo's office in Tokyo and then opened their office in Hong Kong (you can count him as one AmLaw 50 partner alum in Tier 1 academia). His practice was in high dollar international arbitration, which I would consider within the core scope of international law practice. His law degree, incidentally, is from Illinois, another state school in flyover country. He may be wrong to think Penn State graduates have a chance of breaking in to private international law, but he does not fall into the clueless twit category.<br /><br />I'm not sure what they really have in mind with the International Relations program. They have started a Ph.D. program in International Relations in the law school building in University Park, using some of the same faculty, and with a similar focus to Tufts or Harvard. Some of it seems to relate to national security issues, and Penn State does have some tradition and relevance there given a long time relationship with the war college in Carlisle. I remain skeptical, but not because it's bad or clueless people running the show.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-35844378472543601352012-08-06T14:54:49.494-07:002012-08-06T14:54:49.494-07:00I am pretty sure that the student at Penn State wh...I am pretty sure that the student at Penn State who got an international job was from overseas to begin with. They get a few J.D. candidates each year from places like China. They study in the US, improve their English, and are more marketable when they go home (assuming that they cannot get a job in the US, and it's a tough job market for everyone, even if you do speak Urdu or Mandarin fluently). Of course, they generally have to be from extremely wealthy backgrounds in their home country to afford three years of living and tuition in the US. <br /><br />If you want to focus on a different twist on the scam, focus on how US law schools are recruiting foreign students to fill seats as LL.Ms. and J.D.s now that domestic applications have fallen off. They lead these kids to think that they will pass the bar and get US jobs. At a much higher rate, I believe, they fail the bar, and few get stateside jobs. It's usually a very bad deal for the student unless they come from a money is no object background. <br /><br />It's a great deal for law schools, however. It's a full fare ticket, and they just get dumped into regular classes, notwithstanding language and cultural issues. If they can bring them in as LL.M. students they do not dilute the grades or SATs you show for US News rankings. You will find many of the most exploitative schools - e.g., New England Law | Boston - pursuing this strategy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-55948843594509934072012-08-06T04:44:12.360-07:002012-08-06T04:44:12.360-07:00Brilliant idea. Best idea in the entire discourse...Brilliant idea. Best idea in the entire discourseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-67772016883045683112012-08-05T20:48:20.428-07:002012-08-05T20:48:20.428-07:00Why do schools ha e specialty rankings when lawyer...Why do schools ha e specialty rankings when lawyers can't advertise as a specialist in most areas?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-55558268179015186132012-08-05T08:55:02.029-07:002012-08-05T08:55:02.029-07:00LOLOLOL HERE IT IS
http://www.stjohns.edu/academi...LOLOLOL HERE IT IS<br /><br />http://www.stjohns.edu/academics/graduate/law/academics/llm/icslAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-40296150453676649772012-08-05T08:54:41.745-07:002012-08-05T08:54:41.745-07:00Didn't st. johns or some other NY TTT recently...Didn't st. johns or some other NY TTT recently start a program in INTERNATIONAL SPORTS law? I mean, they combined international law with sports law. It read like an Onion story but it was real!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-78635516532710090942012-08-04T11:10:40.611-07:002012-08-04T11:10:40.611-07:00On the other hand, it really does not matter what ...On the other hand, it really does not matter what courses one takes in law school. They are all equally worthless. You might as well take international space law, if it interests you. You are just marking time and burning money so you can sit for the bar exam. The bar review course will teach you what you need to know, in one month.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-5735800016085601182012-08-04T09:29:33.077-07:002012-08-04T09:29:33.077-07:00@Gregg Smith
Good to see another UM grad out mak...@Gregg Smith <br /><br />Good to see another UM grad out making a living.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-42234319275648769462012-08-04T08:26:40.226-07:002012-08-04T08:26:40.226-07:00Just as a further note my alma mater did offer a c...Just as a further note my alma mater did offer a class on how to become a solo practitioner. I believe for the last 6 years it has been taught by the same local attorney.<br /><br />Then again I went to law school in a flyover state with a low population base.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-90798928165315062412012-08-03T23:27:18.697-07:002012-08-03T23:27:18.697-07:00I went to a small, 4th Tier State School, the Univ...I went to a small, 4th Tier State School, the University of Montana. It was practice oriented before practice oriented was cool.<br /><br />When I went solo after five years with a firm, I sort of knew what to do. My law school, plus an accounting degree, prepared me to run my business. I can't quote Plato worth sh*t, but then again, I rarely need to. I do, however, win cases and make money.Gregg Smithhttp://www.electriccityweblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-83256939969547965872012-08-03T23:20:18.700-07:002012-08-03T23:20:18.700-07:008/3 3:07PM
Exactly.
With the outrageous debt one...8/3 3:07PM<br /><br />Exactly.<br /><br />With the outrageous debt one can never cut one's losses and move on in life.<br /><br />Without the debt the scamblogs might have never even been created.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-83875728797835040802012-08-03T19:31:50.996-07:002012-08-03T19:31:50.996-07:0010:20 writes, "There was brief period, about ...10:20 writes, "There was brief period, about 10 years ago IIRC, when Widener was #1 in USNWR's health law ranking."<br /><br /><br />Here now. My LS had/still has a highly ranked health law programme. I took the concentration, a result of which I now know exactly all the ways one can sue a doc, nurse, hospital, or HMO; or defend same.<br /><br />Not that my practice includes any of the above, either defense or offense....X_Wonders_Y_noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-21582061871185377342012-08-03T19:11:18.548-07:002012-08-03T19:11:18.548-07:00McGeorge is known for being a pipeline to DA offic...McGeorge is known for being a pipeline to DA offices, I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-70853566547264101022012-08-03T18:25:28.667-07:002012-08-03T18:25:28.667-07:00I have wondered for years why there are not law sc...I have wondered for years why there are not law schools that try to sell themsevles as producting great prosecutors and or public defenders. <br /><br />You'd have to charge less tuition, but you'd corner the market very soon, and soon you'd have a steady stream of applicants, because <br /><br />1. There have always been and will always be applicants who want to practice in these fields, many who have grown up wanting to do so, and <br /><br />2. These positions actually exist and these offices actually employ people.<br /><br />Of course, it would be hard to find professors to teach there, but if you could, and you charged a reasonable rate, I think you'd have students from all over the country and likely employers from all over the country seeking out your students.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-33246754097241214382012-08-03T17:52:13.313-07:002012-08-03T17:52:13.313-07:00It would be a gift to all concerned if the LSAT in...It would be a gift to all concerned if the LSAT included a series of questions that require the calculation of debt that will attach once one graduates from law school, the per month payment required to service that debt, the growth of that debt both during and post-law school.<br /><br />Then they could have a few questions on the chances of getting a job upon graduation, typical salary level, etc.<br /><br />Might as well get some "education" in while the lemmings are heading for the cliff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-32125522186862796772012-08-03T16:35:06.018-07:002012-08-03T16:35:06.018-07:00"Paralegals and legal assistants are in deman..."Paralegals and legal assistants are in demand: Many law school grads struggle for jobs"<br /><br />Clearly the solution is for some law schools to close and more paralegal schools should open.<br /><br />http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12716831-paralegals-and-legal-assistants-are-in-demand-many-law-school-grads-struggle-for-jobsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-65675426665348257092012-08-03T15:18:34.790-07:002012-08-03T15:18:34.790-07:00Biker,
If I recall correctly PMF isn't for att...Biker,<br />If I recall correctly PMF isn't for attorney jobs, they're just regular government jobs so it's unlikely a lot of T-14 students will go for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-28201658805024303472012-08-03T15:07:01.122-07:002012-08-03T15:07:01.122-07:00@2:12 I think the sheer size of the debt law stude...@2:12 I think the sheer size of the debt law students have is a much bigger source of misery than dashed expectations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-44569801971513079102012-08-03T15:02:45.226-07:002012-08-03T15:02:45.226-07:00Those jobs are nonexistent unless you have connect...Those jobs are nonexistent unless you have connections. Unless you know where your job is before you even apply, you shouldn't apply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-2201948737022719242012-08-03T14:53:40.678-07:002012-08-03T14:53:40.678-07:00@Voodoo94
You write that the PMF accepts students...@Voodoo94<br /><br />You write that the PMF accepts students from "William and Mary, Syracuse, Hofstra and Lewis & Clark". All these are first/second tier schools. Moreover, a student must place in the top 20% of such schools and have journal experience to have a shot at the PMF.<br /><br />You also write: "In fact, until a few years ago it was very uncommon for HYS JD grads to even consider the PMF program. Not surprisingly, more have applied over the past few years."<br /><br />As BigLaw sheds T14 students, they will seek jobs in the government and public interest, squeezing out applicants from lower ranked schools.bikerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01855904589819645227noreply@blogger.com