tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post2923142426753569211..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: The law school reform movement: Accomplishments and goalsLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger73125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-69325732799690026912013-01-23T16:11:42.580-08:002013-01-23T16:11:42.580-08:00Ӏ tгuly love your websitе.. Very nіce colors &...Ӏ tгuly love your websitе.. Very nіce colors & theme.<br />Dіd yоu make this website yοuгself?<br /><br />Plеase reρly bаck as I'm looking to create my own personal site and would love to know where you got this from or just what the theme is named. 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I had poor gra...I'm glad I went to law school. I had poor grades in undergrad (as I dislike school), standardized test scores in the top 10%, a BV rating after 3 years of practice, and now I review and summarize medical records all day. Perhaps if I drank more heavily my mind would feel more taxed or I'd be more challenged? However, I'm glad I missed those 3 years in the workforce for a chance to work harder, for significantly less, than my friends from undergrad in business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-33268402130631898332012-05-29T18:23:05.461-07:002012-05-29T18:23:05.461-07:00I tried in vain for 2 days to convince a recent co...I tried in vain for 2 days to convince a recent college grad not to attend law school, despite all the data I showed her on sites like this and the NY times articles and the facebook page Don't Go to Law School, she is still going to a TTT...*sigh*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-23523186213853172592012-05-29T17:01:36.049-07:002012-05-29T17:01:36.049-07:00The things that I mention about private loans ar...The things that I mention about private loans are fairly easy to Google if any one cares to do it rather than listen to the good professor and his entourage.<br /><br />Of course, here's the kicker: the good professor and his entourage seem only interested in "solutions" that lead to the same mess we find in other sectors, they only seem to worry about law school issues rather than connecting the trends in law school to other parts of the educational market (its ironic then that he speaks above in a separate post of "special snow flake" since the entire site advocates that there is something special about law school loan debt versus other school debt, etc.). <br /><br />At the end of the day, neither the professor who is entourage have proven anything the way of solutions.<br /><br />They are just telling you the nature of the problem, and then hoping you miss that they are only offering solutions that aren't addressing the private sector element.<br /><br />The whole overreaction to the Business Week article that says exactly what I wrote here (dated again May 23, 2012) should be an eye opener to anyone who bothers to read the article rather than read the commentary about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-34724800008501102012012-05-29T16:50:47.797-07:002012-05-29T16:50:47.797-07:00I am sure any comments about deregulating the lega...I am sure any comments about deregulating the legal practice will be glowing given the statements already made here.<br /><br />As I said, else where, how any one can type with a straight fact that the solution to an oversupply of lawyers is to deregulate the process of entering the market or how this will remotely help either lawyers or clients is beyond me. But it takes a special talent to manipulate debates towards certain solutions that just so happen to fight whats been happening throughout our society. Ironically, the same approach that leads to the very crisis that we have in the first place in the legal market- namely no one wanting to pay for it so consumer debt was chosen just like its been chosen in just about every other aspect of the American economy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-27320121152453355312012-05-29T16:46:00.357-07:002012-05-29T16:46:00.357-07:00Law Prof
The shorter version of my statement is t...Law Prof<br /><br />The shorter version of my statement is that you are someone with an agenda, this is your blog, and its not worth my time. <br /><br />The things I posted took each appears on the first page of Googling the subject.<br /><br />It underscores the point that you aren't an honest person, this is not an honest debate, and you are trying to push your audience towards certain solutions.<br /><br />The fact you have yet to discuss the Business Week article which destroys your argument says all that needs to be said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-77911667054293366602012-05-29T13:14:14.494-07:002012-05-29T13:14:14.494-07:00@ . _ _ _ on MAY 28, 2012 5:32 PM:
Total commen...@ . _ _ _ on MAY 28, 2012 5:32 PM: <br /><br />Total comment word count: 178.<br /><br />Gist: Last 7 words.<br /><br />Well done.I_have_a_namehttp://www.yahoo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-38860463401636815372012-05-29T11:38:01.249-07:002012-05-29T11:38:01.249-07:00@ terry malloy:
I never said it was going to be e...@ terry malloy:<br /><br />I never said it was going to be easy, but 100-150k salary, full benefits, and retirment before 50 seems an infinitely better fate than even a sold outcome from LS: 150K in of non-dischargeable debt with a 55k a year job (in a profession that is sinking).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-40773068096879835672012-05-29T09:10:21.914-07:002012-05-29T09:10:21.914-07:00I hope LawProf and/or DJM will comment regarding t...I hope LawProf and/or DJM will comment regarding today's WSJ opinion piece on deregulating law practice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-54433241554377120752012-05-29T08:51:55.432-07:002012-05-29T08:51:55.432-07:00@8:03:
As tense as my office may be at times, I r...@8:03:<br /><br />As tense as my office may be at times, I rarely have feces thrown at me. <br /><br />For an interesting analysis of a corrections officer's lifestyle, see: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Newjack-Guarding-Sing-Ted-Conover/dp/0375726624" rel="nofollow">Newjack: Guarding Sing Sing</a>terry malloynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-2409833254708453292012-05-29T08:03:44.868-07:002012-05-29T08:03:44.868-07:00Here's an idea: instead of graduating college,...Here's an idea: instead of graduating college, or even high school, avoid the debt, and go work in one of those prisons. Six figures, benefits, healthcare, political protection, and retirement at the ripe old age of 45. Nah. Fuck that. That is certainly not prestigious enough...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-82712746510235710662012-05-29T07:19:29.493-07:002012-05-29T07:19:29.493-07:00I think a real eyeopener would be for all unemploy...I think a real eyeopener would be for all unemployed/underemployed lawyers to attend homecoming, alumni weekend, etc.<br /><br />If faculty were confronted with seas of victims, most would not know how to deal.<br /><br />Frankly, most faculty benefit from the loan scam and don't ask too many questions. In short, they're akin to the wives of mobsters rather than the mobsters themselves. Make it really uncomfortable for the faculty and see if they'll lie to your face.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-38743739512629066932012-05-29T06:43:32.729-07:002012-05-29T06:43:32.729-07:00If the choice were between no bankruptcy ever or g...If the choice were between no bankruptcy ever or going to prison over student loan debt, I would take the no bankruptcy option hands down.<br /><br />But maybe the legal system in the US has been rendered powerless, which goes back to my earlier question: Doesn't anyone that reads this blog care about what is going on?<br /><br />Doesn't anyone working in the field of bankruptcy law care about stories of doubled, or tripled student loan balances, with no moratorium on interest charges ever? <br /><br />This has been going on for a quite a while. For example, read the testimonials here:<br /><br />http://studentloanjustice.org/victims.htm<br /><br />And read this again:<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/22/debtors-prison-legal-in-more-than-one-third-of-us-states_n_1107524.html<br /><br />One last question and I won't comment on this post anymore:<br /><br />Does having the Correction Corporation of America in a stock portfolio seem at least a little bit problematic to anyone?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-9467957149372664872012-05-29T06:38:09.201-07:002012-05-29T06:38:09.201-07:00Why do we subsidize the law schools with taxpayer ...Why do we subsidize the law schools with taxpayer dollars?<br /><br />Also, query why there is so much reluctance to designate federal loan funds to certain educational programs. Why not prefer undegraduate education? Then prefer the health professions and STEM? Then perhaps specialty programs in the arts? <br /><br />Is there any good reason that MBAs and law students should receive limitless grad PLUS loans? It strikes me as frickin crazy.<br /><br />But deep analysis no longer exists in America. Rather, it is sold to the public as necessary so that poor, aspiring Atticus Finches can afford to reach their dream of serving the wrongly accused. Total bunk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-43231801428516336932012-05-29T05:59:22.896-07:002012-05-29T05:59:22.896-07:00lol the URL ends in SHTM, not the normal HTML.
S...lol the URL ends in SHTM, not the normal HTML. <br /><br />SHT indeed. SHT in deed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-21476044063791980192012-05-29T05:58:57.684-07:002012-05-29T05:58:57.684-07:00Daily reminder of a ridiculous double standard:
h...Daily reminder of a ridiculous double standard:<br /><br />http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2012/05/consumerrefund.shtmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-4479709207778539202012-05-29T05:57:05.697-07:002012-05-29T05:57:05.697-07:00LawProf, sorry to get off topic, but just some foo...LawProf, sorry to get off topic, but just some food for thought:<br /><br />Re: Private Prisons in the US and how they are very profitable:<br /><br />http://rt.com/usa/news/private-america-cca-prison-050/<br /><br />The website for the CCA (Corrections Corporation Of America) is here, and they seem to have lots of job opportunities as well:<br /><br />http://www.cca.com/<br /><br />Hell, the CCA even has its own flag!<br /><br />America is becoming a very frightening place to live.<br /><br />But if a Student Loan Debtor goes to jail so as to work off the debt in a corporate owned prison labor camp, and is beaten and abused and raped (which is a part of prison life as we all seem to joke and laugh about with glee in American popular culture), can Sallie Mae or the Dept. of Ed. continue to collect interest from the taxpayer?<br /><br />Deep thoughts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-83178434916237874802012-05-29T05:12:26.706-07:002012-05-29T05:12:26.706-07:00Get a jerb bums. You're pours.Get a jerb bums. You're pours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-23242678504482561882012-05-28T20:30:53.802-07:002012-05-28T20:30:53.802-07:007:03
I'll take your bet. One dollar IF someo...7:03 <br /><br />I'll take your bet. One dollar IF someone goes to jail for student loan debt, I'm already 'hearing' about it.clmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-90866743603391418412012-05-28T19:44:15.646-07:002012-05-28T19:44:15.646-07:00Welcome back, LawProf!Welcome back, LawProf!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-29743149174644403012012-05-28T19:03:06.498-07:002012-05-28T19:03:06.498-07:00@6:56PM
I am not out of my mind. When this countr...@6:56PM<br /><br />I am not out of my mind. When this country was formed, debtors' prisons were outlawed. Yet, today it is common to see stories where people go to jail over debt. Of course, the media will say the debtor went to jail for contempt (i.e., failure to answer an information subpoena) but the reality is the creditors are counting on the courts to do their bidding and scare people into paying their debts. This is de-sensitizing program. I will bet you a $1 that you will start hearing about grads going to jail over student loans within a year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-80783455076290999512012-05-28T18:56:57.482-07:002012-05-28T18:56:57.482-07:006:47 you are out of your mind. If you don't p...6:47 you are out of your mind. If you don't pay your student loans, trust me, the govt is the most powerful debt collector in the world. Access to the federal new hire registry and tax intercepts in addition to the options available to traditional debt collection agencies. If you can pay your loans, trust me, they'll know. If you can't, why would they bother?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com