tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post2799460674365362357..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: Earnest moneyLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger98125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-69672359271676486262012-10-03T22:16:58.622-07:002012-10-03T22:16:58.622-07:00Sadly, job seekers who are not technologically sav...Sadly, job seekers who are not technologically savvy may have a hard time finding jobs due to the inability to apply for available jobs online. <a href="http://www.lsarecruitment.com.au/Payroll-Solutions.php" rel="nofollow">payroll solutions</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12806672924550890030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-49571729969771558292012-10-01T23:26:41.308-07:002012-10-01T23:26:41.308-07:00Obviously good advice for anyone, but consumer adv...Obviously good advice for anyone, but consumer advocates say it’s most important for young people who are inexperienced with financial products.<br /><a href="http://businessloanfornewbusiness.com/" rel="nofollow">http://businessloanfornewbusiness.com/</a>Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00967196587893799403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-17371736664423050722012-08-14T02:34:30.267-07:002012-08-14T02:34:30.267-07:00Well done activities, preferences and etc. but ind...Well done activities, preferences and etc. but indeed needs more improvements. Dianahttp://members.webs.com/s/sitebuilder/design?pageId=273108171#noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-84902566777554247482012-06-19T16:43:47.439-07:002012-06-19T16:43:47.439-07:00iLawyer? Well, there goes that document review gi...iLawyer? Well, there goes that document review gig I was hoping would put some food ont the table. <br /><br />http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/06/ilawyer-what-happens-when-computers-replace-attorneys/258688/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-59124038255146240402012-06-18T15:01:11.953-07:002012-06-18T15:01:11.953-07:00Is this poor person actually looking for an answer...Is this poor person actually looking for an answer to his question? I want to suppose this is a trick, but maybe my issue-spotting skills are so excellent that only I can see the answer written in the question. <br /><br />"2 Years of paid systems engineering internship at Fortune 500 company, led to lucrative job offer."<br /><br />TAKE THIS JOB, YOU BENIGHTED IDIOT. A good salary at a job within your training and skill set that is not physically harmful or emotionally abusive is a blessing that so many in this land of opportunity would slay you for. Accept it, send them flowers, and thank God for your good fortune. And do not even THINK about going to law school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-17919736993610872062012-06-17T14:41:54.492-07:002012-06-17T14:41:54.492-07:00Listen, Campos, you pathetic piece of shit, shut t...Listen, Campos, you pathetic piece of shit, shut the fuck up. Such a pathetic waste of space. You're what, in your 60s, and still bleating on like an adolescent rebel.<br /><br />Just die please, ok?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-74511581141761769902012-06-13T05:33:09.559-07:002012-06-13T05:33:09.559-07:00Given the number of readers on this forum it seems...Given the number of readers on this forum it seems to me that it should do something constructive - and since many have legal research training, I'd like to suggest a crowd source project to answer the following questions:<br /><br /><br />Crowd Source Project<br /><br />1. ABA Model Rules of Professional Conduct<br /><br />a. Is there any basis for suggesting that law schools and their administrators have violated the ABA Model Rules of Professional Conduct (the “Model Rules”)?<br />b. What basis is there for suggesting that the Model Rules apply to the relationship between a Law School and students/prospective students?<br />c. What basis is there to suggest that the Model Rules apply to the conduct of a bar-admitted law school administrator and students/prospective law students?<br />d. Are there any precedential decisions apply the Model Rules to analogous situations?<br /> <br /><br />2. State Bar Rules<br /><br /><br />a. Is there any basis for suggesting that law schools and their administrators have violated the Ethics Rules of your state bar (“[State]-Bar Rules”)?<br />b. What basis is there for suggesting that the [State]-Bar Rules apply to the relationship between a Law School and students/prospective students?<br />c. What basis is there to suggest that the [State]-Bar Rules apply to the conduct of a bar-admitted law school administrator and students/prospective law students?<br />d. Are there any precedential decisions apply the [State]-Bar Rules to analogous situations?<br /><br /><br />3. [Name]-School of Law Honor Code (or analogous)<br /><br />a. What sort of honor code does your law school have?<br />b. Where can it be found (url)?<br />c. Does the Honor Code apply only to law students or to faculty as well?<br />d. Does the honor code describe itself in contractual terms – i.e., a contract between the members of an academic community?<br />e. Does the Honor Code prohibit dishonesty?<br />f. Does the honor code present false presentation of data?<br />g. Does the honor code prohibit misleading presentation of data?<br />h. Does the honor code have a broad requirement of honesty in dealings?<br />i. Is the honor code strict liability?<br />j. Are there any precedential decisions?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />4. Bad Faith Lending/Fiduciary Duty<br />a. Does [your state and/or state where you law school is situated] recognize the legal concept of bad faith lending (i.e., a lender has a duty of candor to the borrower)?<br />b. Does you state treat arrangers of loans as subject to the duty of candor?<br />c. Is an arranger receiving loan proceeds a factor in the bad faith lending concept?<br />d. Does [your state and/or state where you law school is situated] regard a academic institution as having any fiduciary responsibility to students?<br />e. Can you supply any precedents?MacKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10442386017204584747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-39469114186420058902012-06-12T20:24:51.028-07:002012-06-12T20:24:51.028-07:00I think that if schools were rated based on the jo...I think that if schools were rated based on the jobs their grads got and had oversay a five year period, they would suddenly find a ton of resources to make sure students were employed. <br /><br />I know this needs to be refined, but schools ranking and the ability of a student to borrow should be correlated to the outcome of the students.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-57762087030924712142012-06-12T19:14:21.256-07:002012-06-12T19:14:21.256-07:00@12:43. "How does an engineer get a 149? ...P...@12:43. <i>"How does an engineer get a 149? ...Perhaps if you don't study at all and simply take it cold?"</i><br /><br />Well, no, that'd be how I got the 168.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-5241976127637090252012-06-12T18:44:18.952-07:002012-06-12T18:44:18.952-07:00@4:01 PM
Bush wasn't a lawyer, but he did kil...@4:01 PM<br /><br />Bush wasn't a lawyer, but he did kill over 600,000 Iraqis. So . . . yeah.<br /><br />Don't disagree with your assessment of Obama necessarily, but just want to keep everything all Fox N' Friends so I don't lose my citizenship.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-29263431273633645202012-06-12T17:36:44.281-07:002012-06-12T17:36:44.281-07:00@12:53, "And to the juvenile who insists on ...@12:53, <i> "And to the juvenile who insists on posting "first," please stop. It's ridiculous."</i><br /><br /><br />EIGHTY-EIGHTH!!!! bwwuUUUAHAHAHAHAHAH!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-63816528220583227192012-06-12T16:01:37.524-07:002012-06-12T16:01:37.524-07:00Some interesting, and related, analysis on Lawyers...Some interesting, and related, analysis on Lawyers by Charles Hugh Smith:<br /><br />http://www.oftwominds.com/blogjune12/consensus-failure6-12.html<br /><br />American jurisprudence may also have a hand in the politics of failure. 25 out of the 43 presidents (Grover Cleveland served twice) have been lawyers, and so having a law degree (or self-educated, in the case of Andrew Jackson) does not in itself qualify or disqualify a candidate for the presidency.<br /><br />But as "it depends on your definition of it" Bill Clinton proved, a law background colors one's understanding of ethics and power. What is just and right has lost all meaning in a system based on "getting the best deal possible for your client" regardless of guilt or justice. "Justice" has devolved to persuading a jury or judge that your client is blameless or justified, and "guilt" is now a PR pantomime of rationalizations slicked down with a blatantly insincere and hurried apology to the injured parties.<br /><br />Indeed, we can understand President Obama's signing of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) as the perfection of the current legalist mindset: claim authority over a wide range of action and limit any legal constraints on that range of action.<br />Indefinite Detention, Endless Worldwide War and the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (www.aclu.org)<br />Welcome to the United States of Orwell, Part 1: Our One Last Chance to Preserve the Bill of Rights (March 26, 2012)<br /><br />Obama's legalist power-grab mindset is also clearly revealed in his Orwellian Executive Order National Defense Resources Preparedness.<br /><br />Welcome to the United States of Orwell, Part 3: We had to Destroy Democracy in Order to Save It (March 28, 2012).<br /><br />Once again we see the President's clear legal intent: claim unconstrained authority over the entire infrastructure and populace of the U.S. so his future "freedom of action" is unlimited by legal constraints. Read the Executive Order yourself if you doubt this: National Defense Resources Preparedness.(www.whitehouse.gov)<br /><br />The politics of horse-trading power-player "consensus" fits perfectly with a legalist mindset that places a premium on "getting the best deal possible" and claiming wide authority via Executive Order. Has the legal mindset poisoned politics, or has power politics poisoned our understanding of the law, ethics and justice?<br /><br />Perhaps both law and politics have drunk from the poisoned chalice, and President Obama's abysmal failure as a leader and his vast power-grabs via Executive Order are the result of gulping the poison twice: once as a lawyer, and again as a politician.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-55253987625564522402012-06-12T15:06:35.796-07:002012-06-12T15:06:35.796-07:00What would that be? A reasonable success rate.What would that be? A reasonable success rate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-66304171854733918582012-06-12T15:04:04.529-07:002012-06-12T15:04:04.529-07:00How about the government only lends to schools who...How about the government only lends to schools who achieve a reasonable employment success rate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-25847892051117752992012-06-12T14:37:17.052-07:002012-06-12T14:37:17.052-07:00Update: My student loan balance is now more than q...Update: My student loan balance is now more than quadrupled and as of today is: $325,256.65.<br /><br />It has a fixed 8.25 percent interest rate, and in the last three years the balance has increased by over one hundred and sixteen thousand dollars.<br /><br />By this time next year the balance will be over $360,000.00<br /><br />I am very fearful about this debt, and am sometimes a nervous wreck. <br /><br />If I stay in the US, I will carry this debt to my grave.<br /><br />I feel enormous shame because this debt is also a burden on the taxpaying public who is paying the 2K a month in interest, and that shame is enough to bring on very dark and self destructive thoughts.<br /><br />I have had no health insurance for the last six months, and it will be a big struggle just to get the money up to get that reinstated, hopefully within the next two months.<br /><br />I curse the day I ever filled out an application for a fourth tier law school, and curse my own stupidity for thinking at one time that as a lawyer I would be an asset to society, when I have now in fact become a burden.<br /><br />I tried to blog about it, and I had views from the US Congress, the US House of Representatives, The Executive Office of the President, the US Comptroller of the Currency,The Congressional Oversight Committee, Homeland Security, The US Dept. of Justice, The New York State Unified Court System, NY State Legislature, Yale, Harvard, and dozens of other universities, China, Australia, and on and on and on.<br /><br />I have done all I could possibly do, and none of it makes any difference. There will never be any limits on interest, and Consumer Bankruptcy protections will never be extended for student loan debt.<br /><br />A wasted, indebted life and all I can do is watch the loan balance grow and I will never be able to repair my credit.<br /><br />Many of the commenters here tend to lapse into cold and clinical intellectual abstractions, but if there is anyone out there with some kind of real influence that happens to read this and cares, please do something about the law school scam, and this whole crazy student lending fiasco.<br /><br />I will pray for the younger kids that are coming out of school with over 100K or 150K of soul destroying debt already, for they will likely see their loan balances double or triple in a lot shorter time than it took mine.<br /><br />Now, if everyone will excuse me I am going to have another look at Madonna's nipple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-64567035570562805772012-06-12T14:26:34.583-07:002012-06-12T14:26:34.583-07:001:44,
I agree.1:44,<br /><br />I agree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-51586520933940075192012-06-12T14:02:43.097-07:002012-06-12T14:02:43.097-07:001:44 You were right the first time!
Your friend,
...1:44 You were right the first time!<br />Your friend, <br /><br />Piss AntAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-70772453802038361172012-06-12T13:44:49.359-07:002012-06-12T13:44:49.359-07:00And I just proved it by writing "they're&...And I just proved it by writing "they're" instead of "their." Nice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-1335841861851284032012-06-12T13:44:17.858-07:002012-06-12T13:44:17.858-07:00Re: Who's more literate: STEM majors or libera...Re: Who's more literate: STEM majors or liberal arts majors, I don't know. All I know is that most of the lawyers I encounter are generally uneducated idiots who think in a very linear, uncreative way and have read little to nothing that wasn't "required." I don't know what they're undergrad majors were - they're all dumb! And I say that as one of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-13805066057648110012012-06-12T13:40:53.680-07:002012-06-12T13:40:53.680-07:00Political cartoon equates the housing bubble to th...Political cartoon equates the housing bubble to the student loan bubble. A picture is worth a 1,000 words:<br /><br />http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2012/06/bok_cartoon_higher_education_b.htmlbikerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01855904589819645227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-54969113058490801182012-06-12T13:37:20.638-07:002012-06-12T13:37:20.638-07:00My proposal for reform:
Allow law schools to char...My proposal for reform:<br /><br />Allow law schools to charge whatever tuition they want, enroll as many students as they want, and report placement statistics as deceptively as they want.<br /><br />But with this condition: Two years out, law graduates have an automatic one-time option to demand that the school issue a full refund for three years tuition plus any interest accrued on law school educational loans. Moreover, dropouts also get a full-tuition refund. <br /><br />dybbukAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-79757362864077801612012-06-12T13:22:02.332-07:002012-06-12T13:22:02.332-07:00^ True. There was an article in the paper just yes...^ True. There was an article in the paper just yesterday saying that the public sector is lagging behind the private in terms of "recovery."<br /><br />---<br />Lol at this exchange below:<br /><br />Anonymous said... <br />And to the juvenile who insists on posting "first," please stop. It's ridiculous.<br /><br />June 12, 2012 12:53 PM Anonymous said... <br />That is from Above the Law-- the "first" business.<br /><br />June 12, 2012 12:56 PM Anonymous said... <br />12:56: It's actually from The Entire Internet.<br />June 12, 2012 12:58 PMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-21871406106524561172012-06-12T13:14:36.802-07:002012-06-12T13:14:36.802-07:00@12:59, I'm pretty sure that "some here&q...@12:59, I'm pretty sure that "some here" is actually one guy posting the same thing over and over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-22898728989035256802012-06-12T12:59:38.256-07:002012-06-12T12:59:38.256-07:00I'm mystified as to why some here keep suggest...I'm mystified as to why some here keep suggesting that people get a job as a cop or other civil servant. Don't they follow ANY news: states & localities are slashing their budgets, and with that, their hiring. Cops, firemen, teachers, health aides -- there just AREN'T any jobs out there in the "public sector."<br /><br />While said writers might look enviously at a cop who retired after 20 years with a fat pension, that cop was hired 20+ years ago. The situation is simply not the same now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-76945672419918528452012-06-12T12:58:04.785-07:002012-06-12T12:58:04.785-07:0012:56: It's actually from The Entire Internet....12:56: It's actually from The Entire Internet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com