tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post2490315387437540172..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: American dreamLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-25924458060345640102013-01-14T04:07:14.504-08:002013-01-14T04:07:14.504-08:00San Francisco Limo Service provide and Limousine s...<a href="http://www.urlimousine.com/sfo-limo-service/" rel="nofollow">San Francisco Limo Service</a> provide and Limousine services for dedicated use to business executives and travelers in the California Bay Area. We offer the highest quality transportation services, at reasonable rates, without sacrificing your comfort or safety.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14320907763847329837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-35762151555780892052012-06-26T05:51:12.806-07:002012-06-26T05:51:12.806-07:00what is Campos' incentive to bite the hand tha...what is Campos' incentive to bite the hand that feeds him? i thought participants in a game cash out of the game when the game is about to crumble<br /><br />and why is the blackball fear greater for Brian Tamanaha than for Campos<br /><br />http://butidideverythingrightorsoithought.blogspot.com/2012/06/tamanahas-book-whistleblowing-on-law.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-30939580961116655262012-06-25T10:53:52.197-07:002012-06-25T10:53:52.197-07:00Thanks for sharing this info.Law school scam shoul...Thanks for sharing this info.Law school scam should be avoided to avoid financial and time loss.houston tx lawyershttp://www.troymmoore.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-12291573028588393152012-06-18T20:24:21.004-07:002012-06-18T20:24:21.004-07:008:22,
See the UVA study. Thanks.8:22,<br />See the UVA study. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-46914628651184955062012-06-18T20:22:13.201-07:002012-06-18T20:22:13.201-07:00@5:06 "We need the statistics to demonstrate ...@5:06 "We need the statistics to demonstrate that the percentage of law school grads who are walking into sure fire unemployment/underemployment after age 50 is probably 80% and that number goes up by several percentage points for each year the lawyer ages. If you are older, as I am, this is a total scam."<br /><br />This is my perception of what I see. I hope DJM really can put together some manner to collect data and demonstrate this reality. Sine the classes of the late 1980s at least, the long term employment prospects for lawyers has not been good. I would be surprised if one half and likely surprised if even one third of lawyers remain in a sustainable job after 20 years. I also know from my experience among my colleagues from the early 1990s that a median salary of lawyers as reported of c. 120K is just about as believable as the employment statistics that law schools have historically published.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-43498513134401028252012-06-18T17:06:27.491-07:002012-06-18T17:06:27.491-07:00This points out the huge problem of law schools tu...This points out the huge problem of law schools turning out far too many lawyers. There is no place for them to go and make use of their degrees. I just wish these statistics were carried through for older classes of law school grads. If they were, the catastrophe of really few long term jobs would be readily aparent. For example at CCN maybe half the grads and maybe 75% of the women and minorities over the age of 50 would fall into the unemployed/underemployed category. HYS would be better but even they would not be great. Once you hit age 60, very few people will be employed. Not out of choice mind you but because they cannot get jobs. We need the statistics to demonstrate that the percentage of law school grads who are walking into sure fire unemployment/underemployment after age 50 is probably 80% and that number goes up by several percentage points for each year the lawyer ages. If you are older, as I am, this is a total scam. Top college and law school degrees are about as useful as toilet paper at my age. I am relegated to eat what you kill. No one will pay me to be an employed lawyer. I have great experience, top degrees, know what I am doing. Really is a travesty that the U.S. government is funding this scam and putting more and more people into it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-3934143779706420042012-06-18T16:05:03.369-07:002012-06-18T16:05:03.369-07:00I think American graduates a number of people in g...I think American graduates a number of people in government work that might be considered "JD preferred" Thats not a full excuse for crummy stats but I am also not sure American deserves to be ripped on anymore than the next law school. These stats shouldn't come as a surprise for a "Tier 1" school specifically, I don't think anyone should trust a 14th tier magazine to think for them. The only thing I think compares to that silliness is judging a school based on its athletic conference. The rank should be irrelevant. But ultimately law school needs to become more like real academia where the individuals work as a whole is usually the point of interest instead of a quick glance at the top/bottom of a resume. And when the latter does happen, the phd student's adviser or specific professors they've worked with are often given more clout than the school name. I should also note that most lawyers I talk to tell me that they often don't know (or care) where their colleagues went to school in their work life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-37647048613089673952012-06-18T16:02:51.836-07:002012-06-18T16:02:51.836-07:00The above individual graduated from the law school...The above individual graduated from the law school at American University.Brad304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-84655421110984433922012-06-18T16:01:35.063-07:002012-06-18T16:01:35.063-07:00Gee, I went to Catholic Law School and graduated i...Gee, I went to Catholic Law School and graduated in mid 90's. At one of my first temp jobs, I met an American University graduate. He eventually went on to become a paralegal at a top firm which is probably not going to happen today.<br /><br />Catholic Law School which is in DC carries on about how moral it is since it is Catholic. This is a law school that as far as I am still aware does not offer loan forgiveness.Brad304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-47680804225119175112012-06-18T15:13:57.082-07:002012-06-18T15:13:57.082-07:00Hi DJM! Hope everything went well with your surge...Hi DJM! Hope everything went well with your surgery. I am so looking forward to you sharing some of your discoveries with us about long term prospects for lawyers. That the oversupply of lawyers ravages our best and brightest youth is bad enough, but, as I believe your research will help quantify, it is ravaging the profession as a whole, as well.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01659995537790248686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-79103312647048570292012-06-18T14:08:56.732-07:002012-06-18T14:08:56.732-07:00What a JOKE!!! AU is place you go when you want to...What a JOKE!!! AU is place you go when you want to say you went to law school in DC, but didn't have the grades to get into GU and GW.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-43422749419278759492012-06-18T14:07:21.484-07:002012-06-18T14:07:21.484-07:00American University's law school is located in...American University's law school is located in an old office building that used to house retail stores...hahahahah. It is, in fact, located directly across the street from a Crate & Barrel and alongside a grocery store. <br /><br />AU administrators paid all this money (student loan money) to "gentrify" and make more sophisticated this decidedly square, brick building with a fountain out front and water elements at the entrance. And NOW they want another building???? Good GAWD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-37818878893171871062012-06-18T14:00:07.560-07:002012-06-18T14:00:07.560-07:00Hi, tdennis, I'm still out here and look forwa...Hi, tdennis, I'm still out here and look forward to commenting more soon. I've been working on methods for tracking grad outcomes over 10 years and hope to share some of that method for others to use. Meanwhile had that cataract surgery this morning, leaving me one eyed for the day. Kudos to LST on these numbers--one of my colleagues has already sent the link to the full faculty.Djmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-20598209116661407942012-06-18T13:26:23.848-07:002012-06-18T13:26:23.848-07:00It would be unpatriotic to critize a school named ...It would be unpatriotic to critize a school named American. Fuck all of your commie bastards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-40326606333685313452012-06-18T12:51:25.009-07:002012-06-18T12:51:25.009-07:00Cooley takes applications year round. I think you...Cooley takes applications year round. I think you can start whenever you want, too. http://www.cooley.edu/prospective/applynow.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-12158672068061720562012-06-18T12:51:10.904-07:002012-06-18T12:51:10.904-07:00AU Law is planning on adding students, and buildin...AU Law is planning on adding students, and building a brand new law school facility to accommodate it all. Forget trying to get their grads jobs, the already over paid and under worked administration and faculty need a new facility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-31059190976409823812012-06-18T12:45:12.458-07:002012-06-18T12:45:12.458-07:00I believe most Tier One schools have published app...I believe most Tier One schools have published application cut-off dates ranging from Febuary 1 to April 1. I assume it's noteworthy that AU is still accepting applications in mid to late June.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-63418110190122201102012-06-18T12:38:16.711-07:002012-06-18T12:38:16.711-07:00Don't some schools continue to take rolling ap...Don't some schools continue to take rolling applications straight through the fall?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-36990797569422211932012-06-18T12:21:53.448-07:002012-06-18T12:21:53.448-07:00As of this morning, the AU college of law web site...As of this morning, the AU college of law web site says the school is still accepting applications for the class entering this fall. What does that say about their applicant pool?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-24888761375465273632012-06-18T12:17:37.791-07:002012-06-18T12:17:37.791-07:00@10:42 - You are probably wasting your GPA. You s...@10:42 - You are probably wasting your GPA. You should retake. You are not in as good of a position as you seem to think you are in. You can't guarantee getting top 25%. You can't even guarantee being above median.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-36596203802106628562012-06-18T11:56:38.316-07:002012-06-18T11:56:38.316-07:00"...that the only thing changing here is how ..."...that the only thing changing here is how law schools/NALP/ABA calculates employment statistics. "<br /><br />Someone need to tell this to this asshat:<br /><br />"But there is NO denying this--the statistics-oriented angle of attack --which is the foundation of this movement-- was invented in the scamblogs. Period."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-22572457887854033922012-06-18T11:53:41.502-07:002012-06-18T11:53:41.502-07:00That's the problem folks. You have lackeys in...That's the problem folks. You have lackeys in higher education trying tell you how it works in the real world when those folks have never even ventured out of academia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-91277163340500183632012-06-18T11:51:26.472-07:002012-06-18T11:51:26.472-07:00Here is American University, Dean of Students Davi...Here is American University, Dean of Students David Jaffe's Linkedin profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-jaffe/6/299/780<br /><br />Looks like he couldn't cut it for Big Law and went straight into Big Education in 1993 at AU, where he has been ALL THIS TIME.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-84357523558783112212012-06-18T11:31:45.943-07:002012-06-18T11:31:45.943-07:00I'd just like to point out, as LawProf has don...I'd just like to point out, as LawProf has done, that the only thing changing here is how law schools/NALP/ABA calculates employment statistics. Law students have been underemployed for years on end. To a recent law grad, nothing about these statistics is surprising. In response to growing pressure, the ABA has merely started to remove its head from the sand to see the entire picture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-72244513566183668322012-06-18T10:51:16.880-07:002012-06-18T10:51:16.880-07:00@ 1028 A.M.
We all noticed you're reading t...@ 1028 A.M. <br /><br />We all noticed you're reading this scamblog. I guess that makes you the biggest loser of them all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com