tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post870714885317156156..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: How bad things really areLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger112125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-10244948437543642342013-02-21T10:25:30.377-08:002013-02-21T10:25:30.377-08:00Only 1 address, while. In the event you employ str...Only 1 address, while. In the event you employ strategies that <br />may be employed in agreement together with your dog's normal urge and instincts, you'll be able to improve its character and provide restrictions that can maintain your dog satisfied.<br />It is wise to take the classical conditioning method first because it is easier to do.<br /><br /><br />Look into my web blog - <a href="http://www.negitomo.com/xe/blog/6646" rel="nofollow">police dog training articles</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-21925960776099893982013-02-21T00:21:02.870-08:002013-02-21T00:21:02.870-08:00Heya! I understand this is kind of off-topic howev...Heya! I understand this is kind of off-topic however I needed to ask.<br />Does operating a well-established blog such as yours take a large <br />amount of work? I am completely new to blogging however I do write in my journal on a daily basis.<br />I'd like to start a blog so I can share my personal experience and feelings online. Please let me know if you have any kind of suggestions or tips for new aspiring blog owners. Thankyou!<br /><br />Here is my page :: <a href="http://instantpartygame.com/category/kids-birthday-party-games/" rel="nofollow">Kids Birthday Party Ideas</a><br /><i>my webpage</i> :: <b><a href="http://instantpartygame.com/feature/1st-birthday-party-ideas/" rel="nofollow">1st birthday party ideas</a></b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-89774449014641681072012-03-31T08:11:56.188-07:002012-03-31T08:11:56.188-07:00Bullshit stats from Georgetown Law:
http://www.la...Bullshit stats from Georgetown Law:<br /><br />http://www.law.georgetown.edu/career/EmploymentStatistics.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-81917460352811516122012-03-23T08:29:54.003-07:002012-03-23T08:29:54.003-07:00I am curious about a new practice of Michigan Stat...I am curious about a new practice of Michigan State (and possibly other schools), that a 2011 grad told me about.<br />He said that the school contacted him to say that if he could find a place to work, and get them to pay him $10/hr, that MSU would reimburse the organization the money. <br />Is the goal of this practice to allow MSU to report the person as being paid by an outside organization, rather than the school? This seems to be an extremely deceptive practice, unless it is reported that MSU is footing the bill for the person’s salary. It is also very unlikely that this funding would last much past the all-important “9 months after graduation” date.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-20351015759654047092012-03-22T17:56:53.686-07:002012-03-22T17:56:53.686-07:00"SL forgiveness definitely means money being ..."SL forgiveness definitely means money being taken from taxpayers."<br /><br />I would disagree with this. The money was taken from the taxpayers when the loans were taken out and the proceeds paid to the law schools.<br /><br />Now the question is whether the government should attempt to collect massive amounts of debt from people who cannot repay it. I use the word "attempt" becaus one thing is absolutely certain: the government will not be able to collect this money from people who are unemployed or who are underemployed. While the government can recoup some of this debt, it comes at a tremendous economic and social cost.<br /><br />In other words, we are crying about spilt milk -- that is, misallocated public resources. The problem should have been dealt with at the front end -- at the time the government was pouring out tens of millions of dollars to created more lawyers in a glutted market.<br /><br />The truth of the matter is, the government does not need money. The government has a monopoly on the creation of money. It can "print" money whenever it wants. In fact, when the nation is in a liquidity trap, that is exactly the solution given by conservative economists like Milton Friedman: print money and keep on printing it until the recession ends.<br /><br />The government gets absolutely no benefit from collecting these student loans, even if it were able to do so. However, it will cause much misery by attempting to collect these uncollectable debts.<br /><br />A far better approach would be to use a European model of providing a free or heavily subsidized education, rather than extending educational loans which far exceed the recipients' abiity to pay.High Plains Lawyerhttp://yahoo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-29423267099491685642012-03-22T15:46:56.359-07:002012-03-22T15:46:56.359-07:00Who owes what to whom?
The debtor and indebted ca...Who owes what to whom?<br /><br />The debtor and indebted cannot be separated.<br /><br />Seeing this empty symbolism, we dissolve the illusion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-50809841348263431892012-03-22T15:27:10.372-07:002012-03-22T15:27:10.372-07:00WCL: The logic of loan forgiveness is not the sam...WCL: The logic of loan forgiveness is not the same as reduced tuition. Reduced tuition means schools charging a more reasonable price for their product based, for example, on the removal of price-distorting unlimited federal subsidies for student debt. Students and the government would no longer be overcharged, which is where this all needs to go. There is no unfairness to anybody - just progress. <br /><br />Loan forgiveness, on the other hand, means taxpayer money being spent so that people who received an (unfortunately overpriced) education have that valuable asset paid for by people who either paid for their own expensive education or never received that level of education because they had the good sense not to borrow too much to get it. <br /><br />When you take away the debt, highly educated people are advantaged by their education over the less educated. It would be profoudly unfair to make the less educated pay one dime to forgive the education debt of others. It is likewise unfair to make people who scrimped and saved to pay off their own SLs pay for others' SLs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-64655082985930286412012-03-22T13:32:11.560-07:002012-03-22T13:32:11.560-07:00WCL,
Maybe, maybe not. SL forgiveness definitely...WCL,<br /><br />Maybe, maybe not. SL forgiveness definitely means money being taken from taxpayers. Reduced tuition may mean money taken from taxpayers if law schools don't cut their budget and somehow wrangle more money from the govt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-65938269202574441532012-03-22T13:03:45.665-07:002012-03-22T13:03:45.665-07:00Oops I meant:
The logic for SL discharge and tuit...Oops I meant:<br /><br />The logic for SL discharge and tuition reduction seems pretty similar.WCLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-91770671353824067992012-03-22T13:02:23.586-07:002012-03-22T13:02:23.586-07:0011:27,
In that case, shouldn't SLs be discha...11:27, <br /><br />In that case, shouldn't SLs be discharged because it will be good for the country and similar reasons that you mentioned? The logic for SL discharge and SL forgiveness is pretty similar.WCLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-27154813862285313462012-03-22T11:27:37.034-07:002012-03-22T11:27:37.034-07:00Jeez, having trouble commenting. My post at 11:25...Jeez, having trouble commenting. My post at 11:25 was directed to 11:16, not myself at 11:02. I'll get the hang of this, promise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-6223135476399387992012-03-22T11:26:31.854-07:002012-03-22T11:26:31.854-07:00sigh..."than I paid"..."which is a ...sigh..."than I paid"..."which is a good thing"...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-61448587645821091262012-03-22T11:25:04.864-07:002012-03-22T11:25:04.864-07:00To 11:02 -
I would be thrilled if schools began ...To 11:02 - <br /><br />I would be thrilled if schools began charging much less tuition that I paid to future students because it would be good for the country. The SL debt crisis is delaying family formation, home ownership (which is a good things when prices are in line with value as they mostly are now), and creating cynicism. And it is only enriching ed bureaucracies that, too often, tend to go out of their way to spit on many of my values. <br /><br />Signed, 11:02/11:07.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-28766718356044611482012-03-22T11:16:42.766-07:002012-03-22T11:16:42.766-07:0011:02,
If you are so against SL forgiveness, wou...11:02, <br /><br />If you are so against SL forgiveness, wouldn't you be just as upset if schools began charging 1/4 of the tuition that you paid to future students?WCLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-85004188285244451932012-03-22T11:07:04.488-07:002012-03-22T11:07:04.488-07:00A futher note on conservatives' approach to th...A futher note on conservatives' approach to this issue...Glenn Reynolds, a conservative/libertarian University of Tennessee law professor and proprietor of the prolific and very high-traffic blog Instapundit, has for some time posted a recurring series on the "higher education bubble." A search for that phrase at Instapundit.com will turn up scores of posts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-70587697866964692242012-03-22T11:02:59.294-07:002012-03-22T11:02:59.294-07:00"The Conservatives are very, very powerful an..."The Conservatives are very, very powerful and formidable and not sympathetic to SL debtors for sure."<br /><br />Well I'm pretty much a down-the-line Republican (in the Bush pro-immigration wing), and I'm extremely sympathetic to SL debtors and unsympathetic to the law schools and other college programs that have taken the (extremely unwise) unlimited federal underwriting of student debt as an opportunity to gouge the students to the nth degree, with serious resulting harm to society and mcuh of the nation's brightest (if naive) talent. <br /><br />The commenter at 4:58 is exactly right about how conservatives generally approach this issue. I am open to supporting many different policy responses, especially a cap on federal SL underwriting per student per year, which I think will go far to restrain price increases, or providing that the schools themselves bear the risk of non-payment on the loans. <br /><br />I would be very angered by blanket SL forgiveness, not least because I just finished paying off substantial SL loans for both me and my wife after 10 years and it would be deeply unfair if my tax dollars (and the tax dollars of people who did not finish college because they were responsible enough to know better than to debt-finance it to the hilt) were now used to simply waive others' debts. Such loan forgiveness also would do nothing to address the structural problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-46902725832683036062012-03-22T09:53:04.566-07:002012-03-22T09:53:04.566-07:00Also, we must think of the children.Also, we must think of the children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-31193626632048682462012-03-22T09:48:54.603-07:002012-03-22T09:48:54.603-07:00Free speech is good, but we must be considered of ...Free speech is good, but we must be considered of people's feelings online.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-23140084211069135902012-03-22T09:44:11.696-07:002012-03-22T09:44:11.696-07:00Lawprof just shot his own credibility. Putting up ...Lawprof just shot his own credibility. Putting up a post like that, then deleting it, on a day when he should be discussing the NYLS dismissal? <br /><br />Jumped the shark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-1526913506718732852012-03-22T09:42:57.285-07:002012-03-22T09:42:57.285-07:00I was enjoying it too.I was enjoying it too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-67214254121337101342012-03-22T09:40:31.212-07:002012-03-22T09:40:31.212-07:00What happened to the "Damaged Goods" pos...What happened to the "Damaged Goods" post?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-11621333006366141462012-03-22T09:13:34.304-07:002012-03-22T09:13:34.304-07:00"No, you are wrong. If prospective law studen..."No, you are wrong. If prospective law students would simply adhere to the old warning "buyer beware" -- and not be blinded by their need to believe they are smarter and more special than everyone else, and therefore are guaranteed first-job placement success at a BigLaw firm -- they would do a thorough job investigating their options for law school"<br /><br />Are you aware that they actually, mentally CANNOT do this? It's not a matter of being smart. The optimism bias is hardwired into our DNA. The rational actor model has been thoroughly discredited. Pick up a fucking newspaper.bored3Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-69119263339090950402012-03-22T06:41:28.231-07:002012-03-22T06:41:28.231-07:00To LawProf response to 5:58 AM:
No, you are wrong....To LawProf response to 5:58 AM:<br />No, you are wrong. If prospective law students would simply adhere to the old warning "buyer beware" -- and not be blinded by their need to believe they are smarter and more special than everyone else, and therefore are guaranteed first-job placement success at a BigLaw firm -- they would do a thorough job investigating their options for law school. The result of these investigation might lead them to determine that they should not go to law school at all, and instead pursue a different career. (I'm starting to think this may be true for you, too, as you seem to be a frustrated academic.)<br /><br />Your cynicism is sickening. Lying is not the default communication mode for lawyers or law school administrators. <br /><br />Your inability to offer solutions -- that are sensible and legal (i.e., able to be implemented within U.S. educational and privacy laws) -- to remedy the problems you continually bitch about is a downer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-34273758362580145402012-03-22T06:13:48.802-07:002012-03-22T06:13:48.802-07:00@LawProf--I did not forget anything. I was talking...@LawProf--I did not forget anything. I was talking about the salary stats in the case under discussion. In that case, the salary stats were reported with qualifying information.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-69380496152828710272012-03-22T06:08:42.965-07:002012-03-22T06:08:42.965-07:006:01: Apparently you "forgot" that until...6:01: Apparently you "forgot" that until about 15 minutes ago law schools almost always presented salary statistics without revealing what percentage of graduates the statistics represented.LawProfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.com