tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post5525717248270620385..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: GWU to hold gala luncheon for departing deanLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger77125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-77099913409532553502012-12-12T05:45:56.399-08:002012-12-12T05:45:56.399-08:00I think you made bright resolution when you select...I think you made bright resolution when you selected this theme of this blog article of yours over here. Do you as a rule compose your blog posts by yourself or you have a business partner or even a helper?GildedDivahttp://gildeddiva.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-532620894763788012012-11-18T07:59:40.511-08:002012-11-18T07:59:40.511-08:00The correct phrase is not that Berman wanted to di...The correct phrase is not that Berman wanted to discipline students, he wanted to Discipline and Punish his students.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-3133048733394976032012-11-18T07:22:49.963-08:002012-11-18T07:22:49.963-08:00As a GW student I was shocked to hear that Dean Be...As a GW student I was shocked to hear that Dean Berman was leaving because, from what I understand, most of my fellow students really like him. Not to mention, the faculty and administration that I've heard speak about the Dean have always held him in a very favorable light.<br /><br />This all is very disconcerting because the Dean had developed a personal relationship with many of us. Many of my fellow students and I meet with him regularly to talk about our future professional careers and to ask for academic advice. I haven't heard of a single dean at any academic institution that takes such an interest in every student's success, not to mention law school.<br /><br />Personally, I was never interested in big-law and felt that most of the law schools at GW's level that I considered going to made this their sole focus. It was Dean Berman's personal phone call that he made to me over the summer that inspired me to attend GW, telling me about the changes he was making that involved a broader focus of the applicability of a legal education to a variety of careers, and a new program for incoming 1L's intended to help us begin marketing ourselves for future careers right from the get-go. A number of my peers and I also participate in a program he set up that matches us with successful practitioners in our fields - this connection continues to be very helpful for me.<br /><br />I just hope that whoever it is they decide to bring in next follows through with the Dean's efforts to maintain meaningful, personal relationships with students and make changes to prepare us all for the contracting legal market. Hopefully they maintain a policy of focusing on helping students make connections with employers from the start of their legal educations, obtaining real world experience, and eventually placing graduates in a variety of careers where somebody with a legal education is desired (outside of the traditional law firm route). <br /><br />Without the administration taking these progressive steps in the right direction for the future of our legal education, I see a major backtrack in store for the future of this program. Hopefully he'll still have some sort of a say in the law school's future from his new position.gdubbzlawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-9021336741808344432012-11-18T06:49:22.436-08:002012-11-18T06:49:22.436-08:00IMHO, I think those "scandals" were no m...IMHO, I think those "scandals" were no more than a minor speed bump in Berman's time as the Dean. I completely agree with the first post that a large school like GW needs a major overhaul in order to survive both the reduction in the number of legal jobs and law school applicants as a whole while maintaining its position as a major player in the rankings.<br /><br />I think it's clear that he was trying to introduce these sorts of changes and the law school faculty was simply not having it. What's really necessary is an overhaul of the entire old-fashioned tenure system and that would seem to be the next logical step -- the faculty likely saw this coming with the changes he had already instituted. They clearly just want to maintain a system of milking students for everything their worth to maintain their salaries. The admitted body this year already dropped from about 550 to 400 or so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-65797241729714774422012-11-18T06:36:43.670-08:002012-11-18T06:36:43.670-08:00Agreed. This is clearly a case of an archaic acad...Agreed. This is clearly a case of an archaic academic stratocracy exerting their power over the administration's attempts to change the focus of legal education to account for the dwindling traditional legal market. I know that many others agree that while Berman may have made some minor errors (as any leader of any organization does time to time), he was on the path to positioning GW Law at the forefront of a changing legal market. The faculty clearly would rather live in the clouds than accept changes that will provide students like me with a greater opportunity of applying my legal education to a career outside of the traditional scope of private or public sector law practice. This should serve as a wake up call to all law students that we need to take a hard look at who is really at the forefront of the law school scam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-3696174208804987422012-11-14T11:57:52.911-08:002012-11-14T11:57:52.911-08:00Usually the same pressure is on the law schools to...Usually the same pressure is on the law schools to lie as it is on the undergrad. Even more so in law, because of the rankings. <br /><br />I'm glad that the LSAC can now monitor the true LSAT and GPA numbers of law school studentsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-20497080609415339572012-11-14T11:55:05.004-08:002012-11-14T11:55:05.004-08:00Excellent point.
Law professors who claim they a...Excellent point. <br /><br />Law professors who claim they are:<br />1. powerless to change the tuition charged to students, and<br />2. so in demand by top firms that they must be paid accordingly,<br />should now become the focus of the scam movement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-22234506295382803362012-11-14T11:52:13.760-08:002012-11-14T11:52:13.760-08:00I'm willing to bet you are the only person, ot...I'm willing to bet you are the only person, other than law review staff at Utah, who has read, or attempted to read, that article. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-69780332839319562432012-11-14T11:50:34.494-08:002012-11-14T11:50:34.494-08:00What about the scandals? He embarrassed the schoo...What about the scandals? He embarrassed the school badly, twice. I don't see that as doing a good job and that is at least part of the reason he was fired.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-40667496727001931342012-11-14T09:50:12.284-08:002012-11-14T09:50:12.284-08:00No. "claiming a false % of students in the t...No. "claiming a false % of students in the top 10% undergrad" clearly refers to a false claim about students being in the top 10% of their undergrad class. Why else would 11:51 also query whether that had anything to do with the dean of the law school's departure?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-89976664337565515392012-11-14T07:16:17.100-08:002012-11-14T07:16:17.100-08:00OT, but worth a read. Linds Redding, Fatally Ill A...OT, but worth a read. Linds Redding, Fatally Ill Ad Executive, Blogs About Wasting Life On Work http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2012/11/13/linds-redding-ad-executive-dying-cancer/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl5%7Csec3_lnk3&pLid=234351&a_dgi=aolshare_facebookAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-50590910516148445372012-11-14T07:04:26.530-08:002012-11-14T07:04:26.530-08:00If I were going to commit fraud of that sort, I...If I were going to commit fraud of that sort, I'd choose X rather than W as the letter for the unemployed group.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-5651953119706464982012-11-14T06:50:29.755-08:002012-11-14T06:50:29.755-08:00I don't have any knowledge of this fellow Berm...I don't have any knowledge of this fellow Berman, but let's give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he took the Dean's job under the "old model" approach to the job, meaning he was there to raise money, market the school, keep the tuition money from hapless student conduits of taxpayer backed funds, and engage in image building. Let's assume too that as things go he did an acceptable job at these tasks. <br /><br />These skill sets seem totally unsuited for the challenge at hand. GW Law school needs an operational and financial specialist who is willing to completely disrupt the overhead structure of the school. That is likely in very few administrator's DNA. I don't really see who would really want to take this job at this juncture. He or she would have to have incredible support from the President of the University to support massive change and downsizing. Because of tenure and the entitled attitude of the staff, it is an almost impossible job. <br /><br />I know this seems like an unduly negative view, but the actual tuition paid here must be plummeting. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-43491069207108691382012-11-14T06:40:54.981-08:002012-11-14T06:40:54.981-08:00If true, this stuff is killer.If true, this stuff is killer.Gilman Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06607416440240634159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-8689121286798749102012-11-14T06:33:28.964-08:002012-11-14T06:33:28.964-08:00from jdu:
http://jdunderground.com/all/thread.ph...from jdu:<br /><br /><br />http://jdunderground.com/all/thread.php?threadId=36971<br /><br />Highlights of Thomas Jefferson 4th amended complaint (after discovery opened!!)<br /><br /><br />Just before graduation, TJSL interviews its graduating students. This “exit interview” is mandatory for all graduating students. During the exit interview, TJSL obtains employment data for each graduating student. Thus, TJSL knows the employment status of every student at graduation. Nevertheless, TJSL reftised to report a figure for “employed at graduation” to US News for every year from 2002-2012, even though that information was readily available. In the 2013 edition, TJSL reported that “graduates whose employment status is unknown” was 71 percent (and that TJSL only had employment data for 29 percent of its graduates).<br /><br />...<br /><br />Loomis was unemployed for the first two years after she graduated from TJSL. TJSL, though, reported Loomis as employed. Specifically, TJSL reported that Loomis was employed at the San Diego City Attorney’s Office. Loomis never worked at the San Diego City Attorney’s Office. Loomis graduated from TJSL with $200,000 in debt. That figure has since increased<br />to approximately $220,000 in principal and interest because she has been unable to pay down her loans.<br /><br />...<br /><br />For the Class of 2006, there was a direct correlation between a graduate’s<br />employment status and his or her last name. Graduates whose last names started with A through N were all employed; graduates whose names started with S and T were all studying for the Bar Examination; and graduates whose last names started with W were all unemployed. (TJSL recently admitted that its purported data for the Class of 2006 was inaccurate).<br /><br /><br />TJSL has classified a pool cleaner, waiters and waitresses, and<br />26 retail store clerks as working in jobs requiring a law degree. ... TJSL admits that its policy is to categorize all unskilled labor positions as “business/industry,” including TJSL graduates who are employed as a stripper, cocktail waitresses, and restaurant servers.<br /><br /><br />...<br /><br />TJSL reports median salary figures based on only a handful of graduates who self-report. For instance, in 2009 and 2010, TJSL reported that the median salary for its graduates was approximately $60,000. These figures were based on responses from only 14 percent and 12 percent of graduates, respectively.<br />=============<br /><br /><br /><br />is there a link????????????PropagandistHackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00032093796955347846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-81029093785135498132012-11-14T05:25:43.745-08:002012-11-14T05:25:43.745-08:00Because $46,000 per year in tuition kills one'...Because $46,000 per year in tuition kills one's sense of humorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-62191096207388699022012-11-14T04:28:10.943-08:002012-11-14T04:28:10.943-08:00why are there no George Washington Law and Univers...why are there no George Washington Law and University of Washington Law jokes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-60085459228110797512012-11-14T03:30:06.136-08:002012-11-14T03:30:06.136-08:00Wanker usage fail.Wanker usage fail.Gilman Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06607416440240634159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-83850953406200376732012-11-14T01:48:27.517-08:002012-11-14T01:48:27.517-08:00Those "gala luncheons" are insufferable ...Those "gala luncheons" are insufferable to go to for someone who hasn't stepped on his wanker and ended his career. Can you imagine what this one will be like?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-47218874757450421252012-11-13T21:45:43.535-08:002012-11-13T21:45:43.535-08:00They'd certainly move up in the rankings if th...They'd certainly move up in the rankings if they did...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-20976126234399485252012-11-13T21:41:30.924-08:002012-11-13T21:41:30.924-08:00LOL, sounds to me like you got taken twice: first ...LOL, sounds to me like you got taken twice: first by Touro, and then by Obama. <br /><br />Your loan will never be forgiven, except through IBR or public service loan forgiveness. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-55678962419787530372012-11-13T21:25:48.923-08:002012-11-13T21:25:48.923-08:00Lemmings would be better served attending a univer...Lemmings would be better served attending a university named after George Jefferson. He was a self made job creator in a viable industry. At least learning how to run a dry.cleaning chain from someone who.had experience would be worth some tuition cost.LustyLarryLikesItInTheToiletnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-1900256792570437602012-11-13T20:42:29.404-08:002012-11-13T20:42:29.404-08:00http://abovethelaw.com/2012/11/change-comes-to-geo...http://abovethelaw.com/2012/11/change-comes-to-george-washington-university-after-a-whole-bunch-of-lying/<br /><br />Sorry, posted in wrong article before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-32467889495471627132012-11-13T20:40:13.825-08:002012-11-13T20:40:13.825-08:00From 10:42 AM above, this quote from Berman:
&quo...From 10:42 AM above, this quote from Berman:<br /><br />"Instead, we need to accept and perhaps even celebrate, the potentially jurisgenerative and creative role law might play in a plural world.<br />Indeed, it is only if we take multiple affiliation seriously, if we seek dialogue<br />across difference, if we accept unassimilated otherness, that we will have some<br />hope of navigating the hybrid legal spaces that are all around us." -- Paul Schiff Berman, Toward a Jurisprudence of Hybridity, 2010 Utah L. Rev. 11, 29 (2010).<br /><br />WTF? Is this Dilbert? <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-52023632103088653342012-11-13T19:26:06.848-08:002012-11-13T19:26:06.848-08:004:21 - you might try reading yourself. 11:51 spec...4:21 - you might try reading yourself. 11:51 specifically mentioned it related to undergrad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com