tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post5059097309703191767..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: That's so funny I forgot to laughLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-41828820715255048352012-03-02T21:21:21.298-08:002012-03-02T21:21:21.298-08:00Maybe this thread is stale but this link is most a...Maybe this thread is stale but this link is most appropriate: <br /><br />http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/02/the-end-of-ownership-why-arent-young-people-buying-more-houses/253750/<br /><br />The Atlantic Home<br />Saturday, March 3, 2012<br /> <br /> <br />Follow the Atlantic »<br />Twitter Facebook RSS iPhone<br /><br /> Politics<br /> Business<br /> Entertainment<br /> International<br /> Technology<br /> National<br /> Health<br /> Magazine<br /> video<br /><br />Derek Thompson<br /><br />Derek Thompson - Derek Thompson is a senior editor at The Atlantic, where he oversees business coverage for the website.<br />More<br /><br /> All Posts<br /> RSS feed<br /><br />Share Share « Previous Thompson | Next Thompson » Email Email Print Print<br />The End of Ownership: Why Aren't Young People Buying More Houses?<br />By Derek Thompson<br /><br />Feb 29 2012, 10:47 AM ET<br /><br />Richer couples! Cheaper mortgages! Millions of unwanted houses! Despite all this, young home owners declined for 30 years, even before the Great Recession. Here's how the American Dream shrank.<br /><br />[Update: Read our round-up of your amazing comments here: "We Wish Like Hell We Had Never Bought"]<br /><br />615 young housing .jpg<br /><br />Reuters<br /><br />When older generations wonder what's the matter with Millennials, they often judge their younger cohorts against such financial and social benchmarks as finding a job, getting married, and buying a home. These observations often come wrapped in weak science -- "blame Facebook for their indolence" -- or dripping with judgment -- "blame their parents for making them weak." The science is weak, but the observations are true. Fewer young people are finding jobs. Fewer young people are getting married. Fewer young people are buying homes.<br /><br />......<br /><br />One headwind is student debt. "Close to $1 trillion, America's mounting pile of outstanding student debt is a growing drag on the housing recovery, keeping first-time home buyers on the sidelines and limiting the effectiveness of record-low interest rates," Bob Willis reported in Bloomberg Businessweek.WCLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-13352815026582528322012-03-02T18:03:31.471-08:002012-03-02T18:03:31.471-08:00Canadian student above:
Sorry you're in the c...Canadian student above:<br /><br />Sorry you're in the current bind--I don't doubt it is a tough one. And I didn't mean the above to insensitive to your particular situation. I do know people with 200k dischargeable loans in a country without the advantages of the Canadian system, so I hope your situation isn't too dire. Good luck with everything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-49037687596986292302012-03-02T17:17:19.353-08:002012-03-02T17:17:19.353-08:00I find this back and forth between dyybuk and Bria...I find this back and forth between dyybuk and Brian Leiter absolutely fascinating. Dyybuk is demonstrating why even a pseudonym can be dangerous. Brian Leiter is actually searching the JD Underground archives, reading everything Dyybuk has written under that name (and he's written a lot, including attacks on Leiter and Leiter's friend Michael Sevel. Now Leiter is after revenge and threatening to out Dybukk to his employer. This is great drama!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-27825817003550350312012-03-02T17:01:13.131-08:002012-03-02T17:01:13.131-08:00dyybuk, showing your sorry face again, even though...dyybuk, showing your sorry face again, even though we know who you are? Wait till your employer finds out what you do with government computers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-64878498846040161802012-03-01T22:24:08.581-08:002012-03-01T22:24:08.581-08:00"unqualified heartthrob...why do you care?"unqualified heartthrob...why do you care?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-63456583545494359692012-03-01T22:05:10.555-08:002012-03-01T22:05:10.555-08:00Didn't Brian Leiter, that pompous and pissy li...Didn't Brian Leiter, that pompous and pissy little academic con artist, suck-up extraordinaire, and scourge of the scambloggers, once mock Law Prof for typing "their" when he meant "there," in a blog posting (or some such trivial crap)?<br /><br />However...it seems as if the philosopher-king himself is capable of similar errors, such as misspelling the word "exaggerated" on his own blog. Brian is a little heavy on the "r" and a little light on the "g". (below).<br /><br />It is forgivable. Brian's big brain was probably pondering questions of vital import to the legal profession, such as: how Nietzche's metaethics applies to contemporary problems in postmodernity, or how to get a law professorship for his unqualified heartthrob Michael Sevel. <br /><br /><br />February 29, 2012<br />Law School Tuition and University Revenues, Redux<br /><br />We touched on this last year, but now the facts are out: 31% of the law school's revenue at the University of Baltimore went to the university. Former Dean Closius exagerrated, but the University wildly understated the amount.<br /><br />Posted by Brian Leiter on February 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM in Legal Profession, Of Academic Interest, Rankings | Permalink | TrackBack (0) <br /><br />http://leiterlawschool.typepad.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-30511481576804631412012-03-01T20:11:40.356-08:002012-03-01T20:11:40.356-08:00Well, things aren't good on my end. But at lea...Well, things aren't good on my end. But at least there's bankruptcy.CanadianLawStudentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-42264047248844924352012-03-01T19:43:17.357-08:002012-03-01T19:43:17.357-08:00Well the market for grads out of Canadian-based sc...Well the market for grads out of Canadian-based schools is still quite good--a large chunk of the unemployable grads are foolish kids heading to Bond or wherever to get a degree. And there is a world of difference between 46k tuition and 18k or whatever, particularly when you get 0% interest for federal loans while in school etc. U of T is by far the most expensive school at 25k but it also is has excellent employment rates.<br /><br />It is a different market and the U.S. could learn something from Canada's regulation of the legal market, even if Canada has problems of its own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-63606564566915715542012-03-01T19:25:00.977-08:002012-03-01T19:25:00.977-08:00It's really not much better. When all the inte...It's really not much better. When all the internationally-educated lawyers are factored in, we have almost as many graduates as the US does per capita. The employment rate for new calls in Ontario was 55.5% last year.CanadianLawStudentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-78714379715606172862012-03-01T19:21:14.661-08:002012-03-01T19:21:14.661-08:00You just selected two of the cheapest schools in t...You just selected two of the cheapest schools in the country, and even they've gone up heavily in price, considering they'd have been about $2,000/year 15 years ago. Meanwhile Osgoode is $20,000 and U of T is $25,000. Not US prices, but enough to leave you $50,000-$100,000 in the hole after three years.CanadianLawStudentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-66872481041012484392012-03-01T19:15:33.637-08:002012-03-01T19:15:33.637-08:00The Canadian market is still much better than the ...The Canadian market is still much better than the American one (both in terms of jobs vs. graduates and in terms of cost of attendance).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-62996166663221024442012-03-01T18:51:16.973-08:002012-03-01T18:51:16.973-08:006:41,
I thought law school tuition in Canada was f...6:41,<br />I thought law school tuition in Canada was fairly cheap? <br />See: http://www.registrarsoffice.ualberta.ca/Costs-Tuition-Fees/FallWinter-Tuition-for-Canadian-Citizens-and-Permanent-Residents/Sample-FallWinter-Assessments-for-Canadian-Students.aspx#law<br /><br />and <br /><br />http://www.law.ubc.ca/prospective/tuition.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-26222811172305182742012-03-01T18:41:15.542-08:002012-03-01T18:41:15.542-08:00Don't let those obsequious straight-lacers in ...Don't let those obsequious straight-lacers in the video give you the wrong idea. Things are bad here in Canada, and they're getting worse. <br /><br />I'll be graduating in a couple of months, and I have no articling position lined up, which means I won't even be able to get called to the bar. Yippee. How appropriate that scumbag lawyers have recently convinced a couple of our provincial governments to open another two law schools. Meanwhile foreign degree-holders continue to flood into the country at unprecedented levels and tuition rates have gone up about 500% over the last 15 years. Hells yeah, all aboard the gravy train -- nevermind those corpses next to the tracks!CanadianLawStudentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-78483669938238370852012-03-01T18:15:45.765-08:002012-03-01T18:15:45.765-08:00USPTO Detroit office looking to hire
Posted on Mar...USPTO Detroit office looking to hire<br />Posted on March 1, 2012 by Douglas J. Levy Back in January, The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) announced a location for its first-ever satellite office, to be named in honor Elijah J. McCoy.<br /><br />Now it’s looking for people to run it.<br /><br />According to a news release, the USPTO plans to hire more than 100, including patent examiners and Board of Patent Appeals and Interferences judges. It hopes to fill more than 50 percent of those positions by summer’s end. <br /><br />“The fact that they are hiring telecom and computer administrative law judges in addition to mechanical and electrical is good news — means Detroit really is getting a full-fledge ‘mini-patent office’ and something that recognizes we are more than cars,” Software patent attorney Charles A. Bieneman of Rader, Fishman & Grauer PLLC said in an email.<br /><br />The patent examiner and judge positions are:<br /><br />• Patent examiner — mechanical engineer<br /><br />• Patent examiner — electrical engineer<br /><br />• Administrative Patent Judge — Communication, Computer, and/or Electrical<br /><br />• Administrative Patent Judge — MechanicalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-57695417096182273422012-03-01T15:43:24.432-08:002012-03-01T15:43:24.432-08:00This so-called parody is clearly an advertisement ...This so-called parody is clearly an advertisement for law school, and not particularly well-done or funny either.<br /><br />It features a cast of mostly attractive multicultural young adults, offering the following tongue-in-cheek arguments "against" law school: classes are tough, law students can be competetive, you will work long hours, divorce law is a drag, or, alternatively, your legal career might end up making "rich companies richer." <br /><br />It reminded me of something. Some years ago, tobacco companies were required to put up TV advertisements, aimed at young adults, advising them not to take up smoking. <br /><br />The ads the tobacco companies put up did not allude to the minor little health risks associated with smoking, or even the expense and stink. Rather, they featured priggish looking kids saying things like: "I am mature enough to know what I am not ready for-- and smoking is one of those things." When I saw the ads, I realized immediately: Any kid who sees these ads "against" smoking would want to smoke.<br /><br />dybbukAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-90534026372545640812012-03-01T14:18:59.043-08:002012-03-01T14:18:59.043-08:00I have always been fond of Henry Mancini's: &q...I have always been fond of Henry Mancini's: "Pink Panther"<br /><br />And as a kid, there used to be a special Saturday morning "Laugh and a half hour and a half show" featuring Pink Panther Cartoons.<br /><br />Subsequently, many years elapsed, and the child that once was enthralled with Pink Panther Cartoons moved onto more adult animation, such as Spongebob Squarepants.<br /><br />Did anyone ever see the one with Kevin the Sea Cucumber?<br /><br />Boy oh boy! Old Kevin sure did get zapped by that King Jellyfish. Didn't he?<br /><br />(I redid this comment because of typos in the first)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-15464774208665743722012-03-01T14:16:34.200-08:002012-03-01T14:16:34.200-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-46451646554927361152012-03-01T12:50:48.588-08:002012-03-01T12:50:48.588-08:00@11:58
By that same token, the guys who DO get th...@11:58<br /><br />By that same token, the guys who DO get the job but are NOT by any means breaking into the 1%,and who are, in fact, just struggling to keep their heads above water, are in no position to do anything but "pay their dues" and bill time. Agitate for reform? Forget it. Why risk upsetting the applecart when someday I'll be the partner exploiting someone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-3752744853084868622012-03-01T12:09:06.757-08:002012-03-01T12:09:06.757-08:00City of Stockton, CA on brink of bankruptcy. I su...City of Stockton, CA on brink of bankruptcy. I suggest any un or under-employed attorneys begin researching Ch. 9 bankruptcies for public entities. This is just the tip of the ice berg. All the major markets are in similar financial positions but have the resources to delay their impending bankruptcy in the near future, but it is inevitable.<br /><br />http://mobile.nytimes.com/article?a=918769&f=21SD Attnynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-71672364106404404182012-03-01T11:58:25.262-08:002012-03-01T11:58:25.262-08:00Given that we are attempting to subvert the existi...Given that we are attempting to subvert the existing social order within the legal profession, I have a quandary. The people harmed by the system either drop out of it, and are in no position to reform it, or they succeed despite all odds and then become invested in reaping the harvest of their own triumph--not in helping the next generation. So who is going to subvert the order? Unemployed recent law graduates can complain about the system, but only people within the system and highly placed therein can change things. There has been a lot of talk on this site about how high SES people have many advantages in the legal profession. This is obviously true and so people from that background have no incentive to reform it. But, consider this, even people from low SES backgrounds who somehow succeed are, in the process of succeeding, transformed into the very people that benefit from the system. I'll use myself as an example. I was raised in a household that came in just under the median on the SE scale. Through a lot of luck and freakish talent for test taking I wound up at a huge law firm, which after several years has launched me into about the 98th percent. Now that I'm in, now that I'm a "made man," do I really want to change the system that now defends my privilege? Do I want to change a system that will confer privilege on my children? No. I want them to enjoy every unfair advantage I never enjoyed. I'm being somewhat facetious, but only somewhat. Any good aristocracy has a means to incorporate people who might otherwise challenge it by giving them the keys to kingdom. How can you beat that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-1832092954547036252012-03-01T11:53:57.409-08:002012-03-01T11:53:57.409-08:00For all the graduates from UNH law or any other de...For all the graduates from UNH law or any other derivate law school, here's a video that shows what biglaw hiring partners think of you:<br /><br />TTT Grad's First Day at Biglaw <br /><br />http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6306517/ttt-grads-first-day-at-biglaw<br /><br />I graduated from a TTToilet and if this video hurts, it's because it speaks the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-63197566015094977782012-03-01T11:02:15.800-08:002012-03-01T11:02:15.800-08:00@8:03. I think that's a bit much.@8:03. I think that's a bit much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-20316108234040560522012-03-01T08:03:05.893-08:002012-03-01T08:03:05.893-08:00This is like watching a Greek tragedy unfold where...This is like watching a Greek tragedy unfold where the protagonist either inadvertently foretells their own doom or receives a prophetic warning from a seer, both of which they dismiss.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-87979568948465800042012-03-01T06:31:09.367-08:002012-03-01T06:31:09.367-08:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M98x-FLp7E
Notice...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M98x-FLp7E<br /><br />Notice that the rats at Youtube no longer give users the option to skip the ads. If you can suffer through an idiotic, 15 second sales pitch, it will be worth it.<br /><br />Head to the 0:40 mark:<br /><br />"Who cares if our law school is ranked 173rd in the country? My parents haven't been this proud of me since middle school."Nandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06423524039657355134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-26021054812230617522012-03-01T06:15:31.742-08:002012-03-01T06:15:31.742-08:00Yeah, the version I saw contained a little kid and...Yeah, the version I saw contained a little kid and tears.<br /><br />It's still out there but has music playing over the words.<br /><br />starting at 3:09<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShliKfsLQo0Rogernoreply@blogger.com