tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post4956439400492868613..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: The ABA's proposed new standard for acceptable default rates on law school loansLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger80125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-71333928092918135942013-02-27T15:00:13.147-08:002013-02-27T15:00:13.147-08:00Very good post! We will be linking to this particu...Very good post! We will be linking to this particularly great post on our site.<br />Keep up the great writing.<br /><br />my web blog <a href="http://pennergame-wiki.de/index.php?title=Benutzer:RoseannVa" rel="nofollow">wordpress theme creator</a><br /><i>My web site</i>: <b><a href="http://gaziantepspor.hertaraftar.com/index.php?do=/profile-6117/info/" rel="nofollow">wordpress getting started</a></b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-39497411483801922802013-02-26T04:02:26.033-08:002013-02-26T04:02:26.033-08:00What's up, after reading this remarkable post ...What's up, after reading this remarkable post i am also glad to share my knowledge here with colleagues.<br /><br />Also visit my site - <a href="http://www.metanasteysi.com/index/index.php?option=com_blog&view=comments&pid=5069&Itemid=15" rel="nofollow">diät logi</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-55541134620106258372013-02-24T23:44:54.834-08:002013-02-24T23:44:54.834-08:00My partner and I stumbled over here by a different...My partner and I stumbled over here by a different web address and thought I may as well check things out.<br />I like what I see so i am just following you. Look forward to looking over your web page <br />for a second time.<br /><br />Here is my site - <a href="http://facebook.com.bd/profile-41618/info/" rel="nofollow">Thai Massage Wiesbaden bewertung</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-84448592738575241112013-02-24T23:35:20.296-08:002013-02-24T23:35:20.296-08:00I have been surfing online more than three hours t...I have been surfing online more than three hours today, yet I never found any interesting article like yours.<br /><br />It's pretty worth enough for me. Personally, if all web owners and bloggers made good content as you did, the web will be a lot more useful than ever before.<br /><br />Also visit my page <a href="http://mails-world.com/blogs/entry/ern%C3%A4hrung" rel="nofollow">was heißt glutenfrei</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-75297311711254252042013-02-24T06:00:18.247-08:002013-02-24T06:00:18.247-08:00Hi there to every body, it's my first pay a qu...Hi there to every body, it's my first pay a quick visit of this webpage; this website includes awesome and in fact fine stuff in favor of readers.<br /><br />my webpage :: <a href="http://www.erplist.com/groups/wordpress-kurse-anfanger/" rel="nofollow">wordpress tutorials</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-46994136789928507392013-02-22T03:16:40.884-08:002013-02-22T03:16:40.884-08:00I'm impressed, I must say. Seldom do I encount...I'm impressed, I must say. Seldom do I encounter a blog that's equally educative and <br />interesting, and let me tell you, you have hit the nail on the head.<br />The issue is something which not enough folks are speaking intelligently about.<br />I am very happy I stumbled across this during my search for something regarding this.<br /><br /><br />Review my blog :: <a href="http://zakshare.com/index.php?do=/profile-22539/info/" rel="nofollow">leicht abnehmen tipps</a><br /><i>Also see my site</i> :: <b><a href="http://www.up4it.co/blogs/entry/Steinzeit-Di-t-Rezepte-2013-02-21" rel="nofollow">Steinzeitdiät Erfahrungen</a></b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-69388886026241161632011-11-15T06:41:12.606-08:002011-11-15T06:41:12.606-08:00On the the debt counselling -
Georgetown had man...On the the debt counselling - <br /><br />Georgetown had mandatory counseling at the beginning of 1L and at the end of 3L explaining loans, repayment options, and financial advice. There was even an additional optional seminar where they gave pretty detailed advice. All of it was very good - likely a product of the outstanding talent of the head of the financial aid office and his assistants, who could abley explain both the big picture and the details like (how is your FICO score calculated). This sort of advice was available, I'm not sure how many people took advantage of it, but we were actually required to attend some of the sessions and I got a lot out of it. The quality of the session was largely a result of this individual's talent, but I would say that all law grads would benefit from that type of advice and counseling, and it is good to see the ABA start requiring it.Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00209436092862608694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-77195908841489234852011-11-14T21:01:36.154-08:002011-11-14T21:01:36.154-08:00"The current proposal would also require a la..."The current proposal would also require a law school to post the bar passage rates and employment outcomes of its graduates by job status and employment type, including the number of graduates working in jobs requiring a law degree and the number of those who are not; and the number of unemployed graduates who are and who are not seeking work. The employment data, which will be contained in a chart to be referenced in the standards, is largely identical to the recommendations of the Questionnaire Committee, which the council will consider in early December.<br /><br />Both proposals would also require law schools to disclose how many graduates are working in full-time or part-time jobs."<br /><br />If this is true then it's odd to see how quickly the ABA did a 180. Literally just a month or so ago they passed a rule, that LawProf and LST commented on, saying that they would no longer distinguish between full and part time employment, and they would stop distinguishing between legal and non-legal work.<br /><br />Perhaps the lawsuits, LawProf, DJM and others deserve some credit for this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-52307187762425229072011-11-14T20:59:27.678-08:002011-11-14T20:59:27.678-08:00Wow is that the same guy?!Wow is that the same guy?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-14906761236062062492011-11-14T20:54:56.018-08:002011-11-14T20:54:56.018-08:00ABA finally to act on placement info?
http://www....ABA finally to act on placement info?<br /><br />http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/aba_committee_appears_poised_to_adopt_new_jobs_placement_standard/<br /><br />But this proposal doesn't include loan info--so letters on 510 are still important!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-60926055137607033032011-11-14T20:44:31.746-08:002011-11-14T20:44:31.746-08:00Check out Kramer four years ago: http://blogs.wsj...Check out Kramer four years ago: http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/10/22/stanfords-larry-kramer-the-state-of-our-profession-is-bad/<br /><br />Note that statement about law schools "forcing most [students] to graduate with a mountain of debt." <br /><br />What's with the guy now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-53055257868483472042011-11-14T19:32:10.321-08:002011-11-14T19:32:10.321-08:00Thanks DJM! I just had coffee (I'm networking)...Thanks DJM! I just had coffee (I'm networking) with a practicing lawyer and his life was so depressing. Doesn't make that much and works a lot. at least he graduated 30 years ago without huge loans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-8137600176233225952011-11-14T18:21:28.036-08:002011-11-14T18:21:28.036-08:00I have drafted a letter to the ABA, which I plan t...I have drafted a letter to the ABA, which I plan to email tomorrow. I want to thank both LawProf and the many commenters on this blog for their thoughts on this issue: I incorporated many ideas that I found here, although with some of my own perspectives. I hope many of you will write letters as well--there were many, many fruitful ideas here. All best, DJMDJMhttp://moritzlaw.osu.edu/faculty/bios.php?ID=38noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-36822821435238820882011-11-14T17:35:57.754-08:002011-11-14T17:35:57.754-08:00why couldn't you just link it?why couldn't you just link it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-63782949584118454512011-11-14T16:34:02.596-08:002011-11-14T16:34:02.596-08:004:00,
Google JDU. It will be the first or second...4:00,<br /><br />Google JDU. It will be the first or second thread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-87282743833005797822011-11-14T16:32:18.752-08:002011-11-14T16:32:18.752-08:003:13,
In addition to some of your points, I don...3:13,<br />In addition to some of your points, I don't think incoming 0L's realize how hard it is to hang out a shingle. Aside from the upfront costs, there's so much to learn about practicing law that it's almost impossible to learn on your own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-38349731100268124752011-11-14T16:00:16.352-08:002011-11-14T16:00:16.352-08:00Link to that thread? I'm curious.Link to that thread? I'm curious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-35288721162187178042011-11-14T15:13:14.078-08:002011-11-14T15:13:14.078-08:00hey 11:10,
Thanks for responding to me in a civi...hey 11:10, <br /><br />Thanks for responding to me in a civil tone. I appreciate your point about being risk averse, but I really think it’s more than that. I was just reading one of the scam blogs, and a recent thread involved trying to dissuade a lemming from going to LS. The Lemming says HE KNOWS it’s a bad deal, but he thinks he can overcome for one reason or another. There are about 20 responses now explaining to him why its bad, buttressing what he already knows. Maybe I am wrong, and maybe what I am saying does not make sense, but I really do not seek how you can stop these kids without pulling the Federal Guarantee. I do appreciate what you say about your own circumstances. There are some people that really think/thought it was a safe bet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-2863300695584105322011-11-14T14:57:17.119-08:002011-11-14T14:57:17.119-08:00"That's why we weren't in business&qu..."That's why we weren't in business"<br /><br />Exactly. You go to law school to exchange tuition money and study power for the advertised job security.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-48587060702515538192011-11-14T14:41:58.321-08:002011-11-14T14:41:58.321-08:0011:54, hey 11:10 here. I can only speak for the p...11:54, hey 11:10 here. I can only speak for the people I know and I just graduated in May. In my experience, we were mostly striving types who were fairly risk-adverse. That's why we weren't in business as the thought of hard work in exchange for security appeared to be a better deal to us than the risk involved in putting in hard work and mabe not paying off in business. This calculation was based on the available data we had. For the most part, we did not expect to win the get rich, Biglaw lottery. We thought that the majority of us were getting into a profession where a comfortable lifestyle was purchased by more years of school and hard work. Transparency would have given us a better understanding of how many JDs get this opportunity and at least allow us to make informed decisions. If I'd have known, I may not have gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-45358786962128970002011-11-14T14:28:27.665-08:002011-11-14T14:28:27.665-08:00at 1:09:
Yes, but he serves coffee at Starbucks f...at 1:09:<br /><br />Yes, but he serves coffee at Starbucks for a living next to the attorney and engineer who work the same shift.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-66170691075873260442011-11-14T13:09:13.103-08:002011-11-14T13:09:13.103-08:00Is there such a thing as a Law and History profess...Is there such a thing as a Law and History professor?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-36989984975376161302011-11-14T13:00:32.494-08:002011-11-14T13:00:32.494-08:00http://northwesthistory.blogspot.com/2011/11/open-...http://northwesthistory.blogspot.com/2011/11/open-letter-to-my-students-no-you.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-52527974392390742272011-11-14T12:41:09.759-08:002011-11-14T12:41:09.759-08:0012:27,
Dude, I don't know who this guy was or...12:27,<br /><br />Dude, I don't know who this guy was or is from last night. I feel really bad that I sound like, what appears to be a raving lunatic. So, forget about answering my questions, and sorry for intruding on this discussion. Not my intention.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-80613326340335803572011-11-14T12:27:18.956-08:002011-11-14T12:27:18.956-08:00Because:
1. You are the guy from last night. He e...Because:<br /><br />1. You are the guy from last night. He ended his posts with questions just like you do.<br /><br />2. Earlier you demanded credit for the Occupy Wall Street movement.<br /><br />3. You believe you have the ability to read every person's minds, providing direct quotes stating what they think.<br /><br />4. You make conclusions about the efficacy of transparency before any experimentation.<br /><br />You know what? Whatever. I don't even care. Carry on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com