tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post4533152981593557523..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: What about women?LawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger119125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-89338596751675731412013-01-31T13:58:01.791-08:002013-01-31T13:58:01.791-08:00Thanks you blogThanks you blogchathttp://www.chatde.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-91138722843213332862013-01-29T22:56:21.267-08:002013-01-29T22:56:21.267-08:00Your blogs are totally worth giving time and energ...Your blogs are totally worth giving time and energy. <a href="http://www.free-credit-check.org" rel="nofollow">free credit check</a><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14684751173041107922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-75856421379355850582013-01-23T09:40:10.410-08:002013-01-23T09:40:10.410-08:00I mean, I knew men were dumber than women (a lot d...I mean, I knew men were dumber than women (a lot dumber), but I never knew they were THIS dumb. Scary to think these type of men/animals are out there in the workforce. <br /><br />Well, probably not. My guess is that you are unemployed losers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-88658943098863601222013-01-23T09:36:26.006-08:002013-01-23T09:36:26.006-08:00you sound like such an idiot. wow.you sound like such an idiot. wow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-53149715051538308522013-01-21T16:10:39.087-08:002013-01-21T16:10:39.087-08:00pigpigAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-29661934787785732802013-01-21T05:16:28.066-08:002013-01-21T05:16:28.066-08:00We provide Economics Assignment Help and Economics...We provide Economics Assignment Help and Economics Homework Help, mail us your Economics assignment at <a href="http://www.assignmentsweb.com/Economics_Assignment_Help.html" rel="nofollow">support@assignmentsweb.com</a> for accurate solutions.assignments webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17610185021950231732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-57856123358372015882013-01-20T10:47:55.097-08:002013-01-20T10:47:55.097-08:00One of the big issues in the legal profession is t...One of the big issues in the legal profession is the zero olerance policies that apply to older women, whether in house or in law firms. Very few older women have real legal jobs. Many practice areas are filled with unemployed older women, while businesses pay recruiters commissions for young women in the same area. The percentage of women lawyers holding full time permanent legal jobs dwindles starkly in one's 50s and after that it is curtains.<br /><br />The standards that apply to older women whether in a law firm or in house are much more rigorous than for younger women lawyers or for men.<br /><br />Try to make a constructive suggestion for the future at a small meeting? The older woman will be interrupted and will not get to finish the thought. The portion of the thought she got out will be misinterpreted by the powers that be to be something critical - automatic grounds for immediate termination of the old woman.<br /><br />The power that be gives out an assignment to the older woman without explaining every detail and is going away and will not be reachable before the assignment is due. If the assignment takes two hours to tweak when it comes back or takes a little longer than expected (no discussion of amount of time to be spent when the assignment was given out), that is grounds for immediate termination.<br /><br />Every breath an older woman takes, every move she makes- the persons in charge are watching her and racking up excuses for termination. When the termination comes, especially in house, she will need to pack her bags and leave the building in a matter of hours. Men who are terminated get weeks or months of notice.<br /><br />Try to get another job as an older woman after being treated like that? Forget it - no one is hiring older women. Sort of like the Nazis only accepted their own type and everyone else to them was trash. That is what you have to look forward to as a woman in law.<br /><br />Try to get a real full time permanent legal job in a law firm without business after age 50? Forget it. Maybe, if you are really lucky and have a sterling recorc, you get temp work, and then spit out the door.<br /><br />Try to go in house after age 50 as a woman? Maybe you will get in for a few months. No way you will get a lasting job unless you are at the level of managing many other lawyers.<br /><br />In short, do not go to law school, even a top law school, if you need a reliable paycheck when you are older. You are not going to get one - just unemployment with periods of temporary work if you are lucky for a few months.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-31238747166975751982013-01-20T08:58:15.166-08:002013-01-20T08:58:15.166-08:00I actually know one of the pioneers of modern femi...I actually know one of the pioneers of modern feminism. She was the first female valedictorian of her college,and the first in her law school to edit its review. And she was one of the first female associates in the firm in which she started. She left it to do civil rights work and helped corporations diversify and adopt more "family friendly" policies.<br /><br />As you can imagine, she worked longer and harder than nearly any of her male colleagues. It took a toll on her life: Her marriage didn't last and her daughter hasn't spoken to her in decades.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-75121852269340414102013-01-19T21:49:57.377-08:002013-01-19T21:49:57.377-08:00Defensive, bro?Defensive, bro?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-24280705733296831842013-01-19T16:56:23.435-08:002013-01-19T16:56:23.435-08:00I'm sorry my comments touched such a nerve for...I'm sorry my comments touched such a nerve for you fuddy duddy academic dweebs. Maybe if you actually served time working for large law firms, you would understand how things operate. My experience is that law firms are full of male horn dogs, looking at the eye candy. I'm sorry if you can't handle the truth and that women do not receive the same level of respect as men in the legal profession. It's a male-dominated profession - hate to break it to you - and I hope it stays that way because I do not enjoy working with women one bit. Now go back to your little ivory tower and write your little law review article that no one will ever read.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-19275825974553984752013-01-19T12:49:54.796-08:002013-01-19T12:49:54.796-08:00532: In attempting quickly to establish your non-s...532: In attempting quickly to establish your non-sexist bona fides, you debase the language. 717's post is not "depraved". Objectionable? Small-minded? Obvious trollery? Sure.<br /><br />Suggest we leave "depraved" for Hitler, Idi Amin and Charles Manson. <br /><br />HTH.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-14673640528678944842013-01-19T12:43:15.778-08:002013-01-19T12:43:15.778-08:00439:
An anonymous internet commenter, #717, dispe...439:<br /><br />An anonymous internet commenter, #717, dispensed peabrained sexism. This blog's esteemed proprietor, DJM, responded with the same.<br /><br />Now, between the two, who do you think was the bigger loser in that exchange?<br /><br />My point stands.<br /><br />1027, not 717Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-69835469880372447132013-01-19T11:21:52.502-08:002013-01-19T11:21:52.502-08:00Dear Professor Leiter, I'm sure you're ver...Dear Professor Leiter, I'm sure you're very disappointed that it took a commenter here days to get around to saying the following. <br /><br />Therefore, to assuage your disappointment, I offer the following regarding Prof. Merritt's statement that, "...female applications, notably, fell off when law school tuition began to dramatically exceed expected salaries".<br /><br /><br /><b><i>It should be readily obvious to even the most casual observer that what has happened is the average potential female applicant has realized that the cost of the Mrs. Degree has gotten too high.</i></b><br /><br /><br />There BriBri, happy?<br /><br /><br />Just For Brian Leiternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-87936337127954561312013-01-19T10:36:07.931-08:002013-01-19T10:36:07.931-08:00A woman graduating with an Engineering degree can ...A woman graduating with an Engineering degree can have her pick of jobs. Everybody wants to have a woman on their staff after all these years of propaganda/enlightment/whatever you call it. Plus nothing but guys at work has esthetic drawbacks.<br /><br /><br />Strange to hear that that is not so for lawyers. Maybe lawyers are more alpha maley? more gay? lawyers not wanting to sue each other?<br />johnhttp://spoonerverse.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-47793095086073376142013-01-19T06:55:47.538-08:002013-01-19T06:55:47.538-08:00Mack- your comment grabbed my attention as the sam...Mack- your comment grabbed my attention as the same thing is happening in med schools. People graduate with six figure debt and it factors into the speciality they choose. Why be a PCP when an ortho surgeon makes much more and the debt can be paid down. Everyday medical matters need attention too, but the cost of education is just too much. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-21950670801245911772013-01-19T05:55:09.679-08:002013-01-19T05:55:09.679-08:00Unless you start your own business, you are going ...Unless you start your own business, you are going to be hard pressed to find a paying job that requires a BA, let alone a JD as an older female Columbia Law grad. Look at the first comment on the last post by LawProf. The point is that law is not a versatile degree insofar as getting hired from unemployment goes. It is a toxic degree, as there are not enough law jobs by a long shot for lawyers, and non-law employers do not want to hire unemployed lawyers. So where does one go? Serving food in a corporate cafeteria with one's Columbia law degree and Princeton BA?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-11868759237744727482013-01-19T05:32:36.370-08:002013-01-19T05:32:36.370-08:00I'm a male and I don't think like this dep...I'm a male and I don't think like this depraved commenter. If you're civilized you aren't entertaining those thoughts and you're saying NO to them if they arise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-12110314894087765362013-01-19T05:25:45.226-08:002013-01-19T05:25:45.226-08:00"LPO warning to law firms as general counsel ..."LPO warning to law firms as general counsel freeze them out"<br /><br />"...the total LPO [Legal Process Outsourcing] market, which currently employs nearly 9,000 people, equated to a mere 0.25% of the global legal services market, while anecdotal evidence suggests existing LPO users “have only outsourced about 5% of what they could potentially outsource”.<br /><br />"Key future drivers for growth in the LPO industry were “continued budgetary pressure from general counsel” and “client pressure on law firms”, it said. A lesser driver for growth was alternative business structures.<br /><br />http://www.legalfutures.co.uk/latest-news/lpo-warning-law-firms-general-counsel-freeze-outAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-75132746613339427612013-01-19T05:18:38.116-08:002013-01-19T05:18:38.116-08:00So the women in the older classes at Columbia shou...So the women in the older classes at Columbia should be greeters at Walmart? That is a good result because law school cost so little when they went. They had the chance for a 30 year successful career so Walmart is an acceptable result. Especially with a BA from Harvard. That is equal employment opportunity with the 93% employment rate for Columbia first years. Age and sex discrimination are ok if law school was cheap when they attended and they had their chance to work. These women are not victims of the law school scam. Only young people can be victims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-91985420351766716312013-01-19T04:39:53.832-08:002013-01-19T04:39:53.832-08:00What? Outing down DJM for her response to a jacka...What? Outing down DJM for her response to a jackass? Where are all the men telling these morons to shut up and go away?<br /><br />Who really cares what men think when they first see a woman? What possible relevance does it have here except to demean women.<br /><br />The posters on this blog are some of the most hate filled angry anti- woman people I have ever seen.<br /><br />It does none of the men here proud.<br /><br />Why you need to write insulting remarks on a blog designed to uncover the serious employment and cost issues in law, I don't know.<br /><br />But if it makes you feel better, all those women you wonder about having sex with, they aren't thinking about having sex with you. So dream on in your fantasies. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-27458087494022503232013-01-18T22:27:51.459-08:002013-01-18T22:27:51.459-08:00You responded in kind, DJM. Which means, under the...You responded in kind, DJM. Which means, under the circumstances, that you lose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-63502181807877786792013-01-18T21:12:16.535-08:002013-01-18T21:12:16.535-08:00Will the cookie truck be available? Will the cookie truck be available? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-78946424778941456362013-01-18T21:03:56.423-08:002013-01-18T21:03:56.423-08:00The sad part of this story is that your Mom worked...The sad part of this story is that your Mom worked so hard for nothing.<br /><br />She was without question a victim of the scam. It seems your whole family fell victim to the scam. It just hasn't been exposed yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-27278998876653832122013-01-18T20:51:16.301-08:002013-01-18T20:51:16.301-08:00Years ago, my husband showed me an article documen...Years ago, my husband showed me an article documenting this point. As I recall, the research demonstrated that heterosexual men think about sex once every three minutes and automatically consider having sex with any woman they meet. (The article did not, to my recollection, address the tendencies of gay men.) My reaction? Why in the world do we let such easily distracted, hormone-driven people into the workplace? I think we've just proved that, bias aside, women can do the same work as men in about three quarters of the time :)DJMhttp://moritzlaw.osu.edu/faculty/bios.php?ID=38noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-55848221972760662302013-01-18T20:49:44.335-08:002013-01-18T20:49:44.335-08:00After applicants to law school started to decline,...After applicants to law school started to decline, the decline among male applicants was steeper than the decline among female applicants. Look at the link DJM posted for the year 2011:<br />Look at the link: http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/data/vs-ethnic-gender-applicants.asp<br /><br />Male applicants are declining faster than female applicants. I also have access to the 2012 data and the current applicant data, and the data show faster declines among males. In fact, the latest 'current volume summary' shows more female applicants than male applicants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com