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Read here:<br /><br />http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2013/01/12/law-school-dean-salary-may-nation-highest/L1pjKel7hGWgPKtT21CfSO/story.html?comments=all#readerComm<br /><br />Finally some reporter takes the bite. I, too, am an NESL alum. (Note, NESL, not NEL.). When I attended, it was a bargain. Not so anymore. I do not see any justification for the increase in tuition. The school is housed in the same small, very modest building. No real capital expenditures. The relaxation of the LSAT lower limit is very disturbing. If one wants to build the reputation of the school, one would become MORE selective, not LESS selective. <br /><br />The bar pass rate is a red herring. NESL always had a high bar pass rate as did the other Boston schools. After spending three years studying basic law, and then a summer in an LSAT crash course, why wouldn't the bar pass rate be high?? It is a statement of the limitations of what precisely the bar tests. <br /><br />Without a doubt this is a great embarassment to the present students, the faculty, and the alums. They don't deserve such a bad light.<br /><br />NESL is a non-profit. This wreaks of self-dealing and collusion. Note, this is a school that refuses to offer any loan forgiveness for public service legal careers. I guess now we know why. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-78940200957382489072013-01-13T18:15:32.869-08:002013-01-13T18:15:32.869-08:00Sorry to come to this blog so long after the fury....Sorry to come to this blog so long after the fury. I was recently directed to it by a mutual NESL grad. I attended in the 1990s when the tuition more accurately matched its standing. I felt it was a great education and was not concerned about a job because I was already working in a small firm that I knew I would with once I had the bar behind me. The low tuition meant that I attended without any need for student loans - I could pay the bill from my employment outside of law school.<br /><br />The SCHOOL and PROFESSORS were great to learn from, work with, and discuss the issues in and out of class. In the years to come, that changed. The tuition shot up to match other much higher prestige and better connected / networked law schools without a proportional change in standing, faculty salaries, or anything else we would rate. <br /><br />I have worked as an attorney from graduation forward and enjoy my work as much now as a solo as I did in a small firm. I started the discussion on LinkedIn that is described in the string of comments. Additionally, I have heard through the grapevine, NESL may not pay compensation to the Supreme Court justices but I think there may be a Justice who now owns a home in the Mediterranean courtesy of NESL - so I am not surprised that the justices like giving these summer seminars. <br /><br />It would appear from the IRS filings that O'Brien and Foster are running a great system that sucks large amounts of funds out of a poorly regulated charitable organization. I can't imagine what happens at the related charitable fund frequently listed in alumni fundraising solicitations ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-17240518632829073942012-10-19T08:59:15.274-07:002012-10-19T08:59:15.274-07:00New England Law has a 93.7 bar passage rate..bette...New England Law has a 93.7 bar passage rate..better than a lot of 1st tier law schools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-82011007738522972252012-10-19T08:50:08.784-07:002012-10-19T08:50:08.784-07:00This is really troubling for me, and this article ...This is really troubling for me, and this article is a one-sided attack on not only the school (which admittedly deserves it) but also against the students which can't help what the administration does. I attend NESL and I can assure you I was not near the statistics that you're mentioning. By posting this you may be hopefully shedding some light on the dean, who's actions are absolutely disgraceful, but you're making it harder for me as a 3L to be able to say "I got a great education" and that "I know that I can be as good if not a better lawyer than a graduate from Harvard." The dean's actions do not represent the students ability to be excellent attorneys and to be highly successful. Going to a 4th tier law school is not always a choice for some people, but I fortunately did have the ability to chose it over a 1st tier and I did so because after visiting all of the schools I appreciated the personal feel of NESL and thought that it would be better to be in an environment that focused on learning, rather than a cut-throat environment that learned what needed to be learned. So while I agree that our Dean's behavior is absolutely reprehensible, I don't appreciate these types of articles trying to take away or represent my intelligence and ability to be an excellent attorney.EMLChachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05764766419424004137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-70434635217256736542012-10-19T08:48:40.547-07:002012-10-19T08:48:40.547-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.EMLChachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05764766419424004137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-37995538641251692102012-10-13T03:12:32.481-07:002012-10-13T03:12:32.481-07:00Nice blog to reading thanks for sharing such usefu...Nice blog to reading thanks for sharing such useful information this is very helpful for student who study <a href="http://www.assignmentsweb.com/" rel="nofollow">Online Assignment Help</a> and keep continue to sharing useful information.assignments webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17610185021950231732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-7601237646069007902012-09-27T11:52:03.054-07:002012-09-27T11:52:03.054-07:00"NEL makes a very big deal of the fact that i..."NEL makes a very big deal of the fact that it spends lots of student tuition on paying SCOTUS justices to give little talks and such."<br /><br />I know for a fact that this is not accurate, as I have worked with the Dean personally to schedule such people to speak at the school. The school NEVER pays people to "give little talks" aside from expenses (hotel, airfare, etc.) People that have requested such remuneration for their time have been denied. This blatant inaccuracy undermines the credibility of this blog post.<br /><br />Personally I believe the school is better off now than it would be without Dean O'Brien at the helm. That is not to say he couldn't do a better job, that the school is in great shape, or that his salary is justified. I just think that it would be even worse off without him. Say what you want about the quality of the school and whether it is worthwhile to attend, but the attacks on the Dean's character really are unwarranted and unjustified.<br /><br />No one is forcing any student to attend New England Law. If the tuition is too high or you don't value having Supreme Court Justices visit the school and speak to the students, etc., go somewhere else or don't go to law school at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-37397025411217556342012-09-26T10:50:09.243-07:002012-09-26T10:50:09.243-07:00Paul Campos for PresidentPaul Campos for Presidentdesormesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-68193672430416021352012-09-26T07:04:20.494-07:002012-09-26T07:04:20.494-07:00mmm... Downs Syndrome punsmmm... Downs Syndrome punsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-37670880415130010962012-09-25T15:02:25.547-07:002012-09-25T15:02:25.547-07:00I graduated in 2003. I work for the federal gover...I graduated in 2003. I work for the federal government. I have been very lucky. I would NEVER do it again though. Anytime I get word of someone going to law school, I warn them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-34477346606021425832012-09-25T07:01:28.106-07:002012-09-25T07:01:28.106-07:00144 is 12X12 and 6X24 and 3X48 and 2X72.
It just ...144 is 12X12 and 6X24 and 3X48 and 2X72.<br /><br />It just don't add up!RU Drivin?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-80311909019542619782012-09-25T06:39:28.345-07:002012-09-25T06:39:28.345-07:00Boy, that article is complete crap.
At least one ...Boy, that article is complete crap.<br /><br />At least one or two commenters have called him on it. Sorry your comment was deleted, JustAClown.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-10765608820302880832012-09-25T06:11:56.878-07:002012-09-25T06:11:56.878-07:00"What ever happened with the Senators that we..."What ever happened with the Senators that were polking around? This whole NEL thing is something they should be made aware of. Talk about a fox in the hen house. Geez.I'd love to attend the hearings on this. "<br /><br />I'll bet that they were offered some sweet 'honorariums' to give talks at seminars in nice vacation spots.BarryDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-26661795191980410572012-09-25T05:28:04.421-07:002012-09-25T05:28:04.421-07:00http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/24/t...http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/24/the-perils-of-law-school.htmlPropagandistHackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00032093796955347846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-29856233544667134242012-09-25T04:49:55.797-07:002012-09-25T04:49:55.797-07:00the NY Times is for sale to the highest bidding ad...the NY Times is for sale to the highest bidding advertisers. The Times basically went almost bankrupt a couple years ago and since then they have had to run these advertisements masquerading as news/opinion.PropagandistHackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00032093796955347846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-63100509558296550982012-09-25T00:46:29.226-07:002012-09-25T00:46:29.226-07:00144.144.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-46324902897247385052012-09-25T00:43:59.080-07:002012-09-25T00:43:59.080-07:00Holy shit they're spiraling out of control. Le...Holy shit they're spiraling out of control. Let them keep posting this desperate shit. They get shut down within a comment or two, and only continue to embarrass themselves. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-76174337114269088242012-09-24T23:02:05.520-07:002012-09-24T23:02:05.520-07:00That author is a fool and his article is a monumen...That author is a fool and his article is a monumental piece of crap. I left a comment, and I hope it was politically correct enough to be posted. I was not particularly kind, so here's hping it will slip through!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-73336642271607010932012-09-24T21:55:59.872-07:002012-09-24T21:55:59.872-07:00the NYT deleted my reply for that articlethe NYT deleted my reply for that articlePropagandistHackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00032093796955347846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-21991439504494855592012-09-24T20:28:25.646-07:002012-09-24T20:28:25.646-07:00He's selling it, not drinking it.He's selling it, not drinking it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com