tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post3611393863823388845..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: Thinking like a law professorLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger147125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-83956219763554460402013-02-20T08:03:03.502-08:002013-02-20T08:03:03.502-08:00Oh my God! You idiots really do think you can lear...Oh my God! You idiots really do think you can learn without doing any work, don't you?!?! <br /><br />How the hell are you ever going to do anything other than memorize minutiae if the book sets out all of "the answers" for you? Assuming that is--wrongly--that there are any "answers" in the first place. (Christ, who's gonna pay you the cash you think you should make as a lawyer to look up an "answer" in a $120 casebook??)<br /><br />Yes, you freaking moron, even after spending all that $$ on tuition, reading all those hard cases, and sleeping your way through the lectures, you are actually expected to turn on damn brain and engage in some original friggin' thought. I'm sorry if that's hard for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-17112428680720034102013-02-20T07:49:44.595-08:002013-02-20T07:49:44.595-08:00Actually, that just tells you that bar exams are j...Actually, that just tells you that bar exams are just as broken as law schools are. Neither has much connection to legal practice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-43729099916512951512013-02-16T16:25:08.680-08:002013-02-16T16:25:08.680-08:007:32a.m. is a troll. If he was the brilliant succ...7:32a.m. is a troll. If he was the brilliant success he claims to be, he wouldn't be posting that kind of thing here; it's doubtful he would even be here reading. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-62341590171857853582013-02-15T17:21:52.479-08:002013-02-15T17:21:52.479-08:00"... the fact that you put up with anyone exp..."... the fact that you put up with anyone explaining away errors with statements like "it was boring" or "it's your job [as my supervisor] to fix that" makes you seem pretty dumb."<br /><br />I didn't put up with it. I didn't hire him (and having to supervise people you didn't hire is not that uncommon, as you may find out yourself one day), but I was able to get him fired, after having cleaned up far too many of his messes.<br /><br />He went on to one of our competitors in the same city on a one-year contract and repeated much of this behavior. The new employer didn't renew the contract.<br /><br />At the new place, the supervisor was just a few years older than this person (early 30s, so, not a "shitboomer"). She didn't tolerate it either.<br /><br />He's a bit extreme in his behavior, but not that unusual in his lack of skills. <br /><br />About e-mail attachments and the like, is it now considered an intellectual achievement to learn little tricks like that? If so, that would explain a lot of what I see.<br /><br />I can learn stuff like that any day. After all, I've been using computers all day every day at work since my first job in 1978 -- you know, since before email, the internet, Windows and Apple, when it was only DOS. I can play computer games too ... so?<br /><br />I can think ... and too many of the new people in my office, can't. Software is supposed to be about helping you get your real work done. It isn't the work itself (unless you're at Microsoft).<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-17289876037219840042013-02-14T18:09:37.893-08:002013-02-14T18:09:37.893-08:00To 7:25, I would have laughed out loud if it wasn&...To 7:25, I would have laughed out loud if it wasn't so tragic. <br />To 9:28, not to sound insensitive to the plight of 7:25, but I just gave up trying not to laugh. That was hilarious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-71945590070292145722013-02-14T14:09:17.212-08:002013-02-14T14:09:17.212-08:00Everyone always knew that law school is a scam..Everyone always knew that law school is a scam..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-47479470441912502732013-02-14T14:06:34.021-08:002013-02-14T14:06:34.021-08:00Georgetown, a top 14 school, is now essentially be...Georgetown, a top 14 school, is now essentially begging for students. <br /><br />No thumping there, you stupid, scamming law "professors"!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-90229640996060726132013-02-14T07:29:28.566-08:002013-02-14T07:29:28.566-08:00It's a pity that John Houseman was such a fine...It's a pity that John Houseman was such a fine actor. His portrayal of Professor Kingsfield induced many a young soul to go to law school.<br /><br />The reality is that success in law has nothing to do with thinking like a lawyer, being a good writer, or being able to reason well. It has everything to do with marketing oneself and one's practice.<br /><br />Some of the worst lawyers I have known are among the most successful. Years ago, I worked for a politician/lawyer who apparently got his law license out of a Cracker Jack box. But hes was able to generate enough work to keep ten lawyers fully employed and overworked, while generating a lot of money for himself and his partners.<br /><br />The people who could think like lawyers, write and reason well worked for this clown, and were paid peanuts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-32903401741231515202013-02-14T03:41:27.506-08:002013-02-14T03:41:27.506-08:00Heeeelp! Some sick animal just took a four pound &...Heeeelp! Some sick animal just took a four pound "Seton Hall Law" in the office lavatory! We have clients coming in later this morning and the janitors are threatening to walk out. The rest of the office is trying to "think like a lawyer" to propose alternative methods to smoosh it down and flush it. I have been appointed interim presidrnt of the Committee to Utilize A Coathanger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-7295750093845866112013-02-14T00:40:15.184-08:002013-02-14T00:40:15.184-08:00The people who learned how to think for themselves...The people who learned how to think for themselves never would enroll in law school in the first place. Its a catch-22Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-82363281045654433982013-02-14T00:10:50.326-08:002013-02-14T00:10:50.326-08:00@951,
"I think there have always been peopl...@951, <br /><br />"I think there have always been people graduating from top schools who were terrible writers." <br /><br />Sandra Day O'Connor, anyone? She was supposedly second in her class at Stanford - this, despite an I.Q. somewhere in the low eighties. <br /><br />I swear, I really wonder who she had to blow to make that happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-56277848296086310282013-02-14T00:03:50.233-08:002013-02-14T00:03:50.233-08:00Well hopefully the Howard Law School has improved ...Well hopefully the Howard Law School has improved since the early 1980s.<br /><br />One would hope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-50434536245942583712013-02-13T23:42:40.247-08:002013-02-13T23:42:40.247-08:00Often the text comes out illegible, as it is carel...Often the text comes out illegible, as it is carelessly scanned from a copy handwritten in pencil. Few law schools read it. I'm not sure that it proves much anyway, as the writing is too tightly constrained and formulaic to say much about the ability to compose free text for general purposes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-16470492069127213882013-02-13T23:14:06.610-08:002013-02-13T23:14:06.610-08:00Shit, legal "education" is a sick joke.Shit, legal "education" is a sick joke. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-91660992345075217042013-02-13T23:12:44.993-08:002013-02-13T23:12:44.993-08:00^^^ Yes, but his children love him.^^^ Yes, but his children love him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-32954945524668137402013-02-13T23:07:31.281-08:002013-02-13T23:07:31.281-08:00^ No. I don't know when Nando started blogging...^ No. I don't know when Nando started blogging, but I think it was some time around 2009. The abbreviation "TTT" was used at least as far back as 2004 on auto admit.<br /><br />As for all this talk about Nando being incorrect that law schools have been thumped/had their asses kicked, it sounds like a law professor or two chiming in (and who might that be?). Despite the fact that no law schools have closed (yet), they're now faced with a serious crisis, thanks in large part to scambloggers. Call it what you want, it's reality. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-69818610208220533042013-02-13T23:07:03.263-08:002013-02-13T23:07:03.263-08:00When I was a student at HLS in the early 80s, the ...When I was a student at HLS in the early 80s, the first year writing course was taught by a 2L!!! Says everything you need to know about how HLS saw practical skills training.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-67506550485072514472013-02-13T22:33:26.996-08:002013-02-13T22:33:26.996-08:00This is probably the only time I will have anythin...This is probably the only time I will have anything positive to say about a spam message on this blog, but I second 9:59, LawProf. You should definitely join twitter. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-55425718573312875032013-02-13T22:12:32.704-08:002013-02-13T22:12:32.704-08:00In case you didn't know, the LSAT does have a ...In case you didn't know, the LSAT does have a writing component. I'm assuming it isn't taken seriously because it doesn't get reported in the score that counts for medians.<br /><br />Perhaps if that were taken seriously it might matter? People do have to write personal statements as well. But those are edited. The essay at the LSAT is a way to see how people write in a short time frame.<br /><br />But because it doesn't matter, no one takes it seriouslyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-32677400686718902752013-02-13T22:08:45.148-08:002013-02-13T22:08:45.148-08:00Does Nando get credit for creating the phrase Thir...Does Nando get credit for creating the phrase Third Tier Toilet, which is now common usage, or did someone else come up with that? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-81829992106037428842013-02-13T22:01:06.263-08:002013-02-13T22:01:06.263-08:00There is a thread on TLS devoted to educating stud...There is a thread on TLS devoted to educating students how to negotiate scholarships.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-38819457841041403732013-02-13T21:59:37.842-08:002013-02-13T21:59:37.842-08:00Lawprof: please joint twitter. Think of all the d...Lawprof: please joint twitter. Think of all the daily stuff you could point out. Just a twitter feed of ridiculous stuff law schools are doing to students based on TLS posts would be an easy addition.<br /><br />You can't make some of this stuff up. I mentioned Alabama giving a $25 itunes gift card for applying, I am sure they easily give fee waivers, so kids are making money by applying and Alabama gets to boost selectivity and maybe rope in some people who hadn't thought of them seriously before.<br /><br />On the other hand, I read that one of the boston schools is not doing any travel reimbursements for admitted students. Does that sound like a good place to cut money in an era of declining applicants?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-72086893950723015472013-02-13T21:54:48.438-08:002013-02-13T21:54:48.438-08:00Video games require a great deal of focused attent...Video games require a great deal of focused attention, strategic thinking, team work and quick reactions. Not that you would know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-56165608091975582152013-02-13T21:51:02.655-08:002013-02-13T21:51:02.655-08:00Boomers always think they were smarter than us. I...Boomers always think they were smarter than us. I am not sure why. I think there have always been people graduating from top schools who were terrible writers. <br /><br />It isn't right to assume that lack of selectivity is the problem. Everyone is going to the same schools, if those schools aren't teaching them what they need to know, is it the students fault?<br /><br />The people who had no business going to college or law schools are most likely not the ones working at your top law firm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-34213999754306830242013-02-13T21:46:11.901-08:002013-02-13T21:46:11.901-08:00Students could easily create such an organization....Students could easily create such an organization. Right now, they are voting with their feet instead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com