tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post3474559511948922420..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: The revolution will not be cite checkedLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger84125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-5685062422121724532013-02-15T10:44:35.378-08:002013-02-15T10:44:35.378-08:00If either person has trust issues it should be add...If either person has trust issues it should be addressed right away or <br />else the distance marriage will be set up for failure.<br /><br />As for coping with temptation, this is where your commitment comes into play and the upcoming preparing that you do.<br />There may be times when he wants to have phone sex, but <br />you are not turned on and it is an inconvenience to you.<br /><br /><br /><br />my web site - <a href="http://mywebcam.webnode.com/" rel="nofollow">Telefonsex</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-75363909702752984332013-01-29T23:25:04.107-08:002013-01-29T23:25:04.107-08:00Thumbs up guys your doing a really good job. www....Thumbs up guys your doing a really good job. <a href="http://www.free-credit-check.org" rel="nofollow">www.free-credit-check.org</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13006925934411686168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-11576354295580973442013-01-21T21:28:05.947-08:002013-01-21T21:28:05.947-08:00I love to read and appreciate your work.lexington ...I love to read and appreciate your work.<a href="http://www.credit-repair-companies.com/lexington-law-reviews/" rel="nofollow">lexington law reviews</a>agen sbobethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12296295566031775705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-62071584705561772492012-06-08T12:58:47.679-07:002012-06-08T12:58:47.679-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09123932116332884048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-78861994773017661132012-05-22T18:04:03.413-07:002012-05-22T18:04:03.413-07:00I'm going to repost a paraphrase of my anonymo...I'm going to repost a paraphrase of my anonymous comments from the other place. You know, a comment that he dismissed because of my perceived entitlement, yet feels the need to remove from the Internet:<br /><br />This reminds me of when Lucy has to make Ricky feel like it's his idea. Is that really what you want? You want her to call you and pretend like this is a dilemma? Really?<br /><br />Dear 2L: You didn't do anything wrong. He owes you an apology for publishing what you thought was private and for calling you nasty names when you did the best you could with what every other professor in the universe would understand. Just move on and make more money than him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-35557418779710159452012-05-22T11:50:26.751-07:002012-05-22T11:50:26.751-07:00What about the poor 90 students who had to sit and...What about the poor 90 students who had to sit and TAKE his exam (which practically constituted a violation of Due Process, according to Hills' own teachings)? He OBVIOUSLY doesn't care about the employment prospects or financial future of ANY of his students, as evidenced by his mode of examination and something all 90 of us (or at least all 75 of us) can attest to.<br /><br />I won't publish the e-mail he sent us, as it is "unprofessional" (as Hills, I mean Debbie) would say, but it's incredible that he holds himself to such a double-standard. HIs 2L student can't send him a polite e-mail, and yet he terrorize us with his pretentious ramblings just days before the exam. <br /><br />By the way, if Prof. Hills is indeed paid $300,000 a year, then it's outrageous that he should spend his time writing and humiliating a former student on a BLOG POST rather than answer a CURRENT student's question (which I e-mailed to him about a week prior to our exam) and which he IGNORED right around the time he published his tirade on the Internet. <br /><br />Of course, his "indiscretion" doesn't surprise me even the slightest bit. The fact that he has tenure makes a mockery of the NYU administration.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-10228438947084435582012-05-21T04:10:10.715-07:002012-05-21T04:10:10.715-07:00I'll second (third? fourth?) the comments in s...I'll second (third? fourth?) the comments in support of Prof. Hills. Having had him as a professor as a 1L, I went out of my way to take two more of his courses, because he's, well, just an awesome professor. Wickedly smart, funny, friendly, and all the things you want in a professor. He certainly tried hard to help students get clerkships. He can run a little fast which some of my 1L classmates found daunting, but never picked on anyone, never made anyone feel dumb for not knowing an answer, and went out of his way to make our lives easier (e.g. audio-recording classes and assigning note-takers so we didn't have to waste our collective time writing everything down). He clearly didn't intend for the student's identity to be public, probably assumed the student would never read his blog post (what law student has time to read law professor blog postings?), and was just (admittedly) venting. Wrong in his expectations? Sure. A mistake to post the text of the student's email? Of course. But indicative of him being a jerk? Not in my book...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-46043426583588908642012-05-19T17:59:04.013-07:002012-05-19T17:59:04.013-07:00This blog is great.This blog is great.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-60085716503810049612012-05-19T11:16:52.887-07:002012-05-19T11:16:52.887-07:00"Clueless privilege." You nailed it rig..."Clueless privilege." You nailed it right there. Too much of that going around these days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-72838031885255711822012-05-19T09:07:57.102-07:002012-05-19T09:07:57.102-07:00If he's clueless about how the internet and so...If he's clueless about how the internet and social networking works, perhaps he should think twice about blogging.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-69796890927770242522012-05-19T08:43:36.396-07:002012-05-19T08:43:36.396-07:004th Turning........BITCHEZ !!!!!11114th Turning........BITCHEZ !!!!!1111FINDCJhttp://www.gold.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-19045564456744703182012-05-19T07:55:30.825-07:002012-05-19T07:55:30.825-07:00off with their heads!...and that day, when heads o...off with their heads!...and that day, when heads of law school scammers roll, I wanna be in the crowd, for sure...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-32752001114064380382012-05-18T23:47:57.332-07:002012-05-18T23:47:57.332-07:00@6:55
"I suppose we all need heroes, dear.&q...@6:55<br /><br />"I suppose we all need heroes, dear." - I'll let this slide with a softer response than I penned the first time. Word of advice: do not expect that kind of condescension to get you much respect in anyone's eyes, honey. Sweetie. Darling.<br /><br />I'm not going to address the merits of what you wrote: I thought he was a good professor; you disagree. You appear to have a completely different idea of what a Con Law professor even does as a job. The fact that I knew him and interacted with him carries more water to me than you judgment based on some paragraphs on a webpage. He trashed a 2L. You're trashing him. I'm sure you can go on all day about my "beloved" "hero," and probably me as well.<br /><br />Reread all the crap you responded with to this post. I read it (wish I could get those 5 minutes back). At least I have the good sense to post anonymously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-84786408576023592522012-05-18T18:55:51.618-07:002012-05-18T18:55:51.618-07:00@6:06
I did not just aim my exploitation comment a...@6:06<br />I did not just aim my exploitation comment at your beloved professor--it was also aimed at the professor who used the above OP to Blue Book his publication. What he did was exploitation, pure and simple, and I stand by my comment.<br /><br />I am glad that you think your "ivory tower" professor is an "outstanding guy", despite his elitism (your word, not mine). I suppose we all need heroes, dear. (By the way, I grew up at a university, still have ties to that university and I can assure you that not "all" professors are elitist--apparently your excellent Professor Hills failed to warn you about sweeping generalizations.)<br /><br />Finally, what do you think exactly makes a "fantastic" law professor? Did he teach you how you mount a challenge to the rule-making authoritiy of an agency? Where to file? What to file? How to file? Did he teach you how to draft a contract? Did he tell you how to draft a complaint that could withstand a 12(b)6 motion? Or, more likely than not, did he teach you to "think like a lawyer" (whatever the hell that means).<br /><br />By the way, while the word "elitist" is not the twin of the word "arrogance", it is at least one of its first cousins. I stand by what I said about your hero---not only is he arrogant, he thinks he is untouchable. One's character is revealed by one's actions; trashing a 2L on the internet reveals a great deal about your hero's character.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01659995537790248686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-11494294315446251672012-05-18T18:33:20.975-07:002012-05-18T18:33:20.975-07:00By the way--my old WWII English professor taught m...By the way--my old WWII English professor taught me not to split an infinitive, as I did in my prior post.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01659995537790248686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-12098804432953498302012-05-18T18:31:03.397-07:002012-05-18T18:31:03.397-07:00@5:52
Beautifully written. I can see why you wer...@5:52<br /><br />Beautifully written. I can see why you were a law review editor.<br /><br />Your post makes me think of many of the professors I knew at Vanderbilt when I went there in the 1970s. Most of these professors were outstanding---and I think it was their background that made them so. Many of the professors I had, fought in World War II, Korea or were drafted and served in Vietnam. Many had worked in the Peace Corps before becoming professors. I had a philosophy professor, perhaps the best teacher I ever had, who grew up in Pittsburgh and worked in the steel mills to save enough money to go to college; I had an English professor who was a UPI reporter in WWII---and horrors--lacked a Ph.D. If Vanderbilt had continued to ensure its profs had such varied and multi-layered backgrounds, eschewing Harvard/Yale types, it would have never become a top US News school and would have remained "just" a good regional school---but I think it would have be a better university, today, in the true sense of that word.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01659995537790248686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-33313765966885642532012-05-18T18:16:02.818-07:002012-05-18T18:16:02.818-07:00For those who are interested, NYU has posted some ...For those who are interested, NYU has posted some very revealing statistics about 2L summer jobs: http://www.law.nyu.edu/careerservices/employmentstatistics/jobtype/index.htm. <br /><br />In the heady summer of 2008, 88% of the class of 2009 worked for law firms; they averaged $3,072.64 per week. In the sadder-but-wiser summer of 2009, 80% of the class worked for firms; they averaged $3,045.93. <br /><br />But then came the grim summer of 2010: only 55% of the class of 2011 worked for law firms during their second summer. Those who secured law firm jobs averaged $2,898.05.<br /><br />What about 2Ls who worked for academia as RAs? They didn't even make the pie charts for the summers of 2008 and 2009. But in 2010, 2% of 2Ls worked in that category. Their weekly pay was $534.44--lower even than average weekly salaries in government ($607.44), clerkships ($650.00), or public interest ($650.00). The identity of those last two averages suggests that NYU may have been underwriting fellowships for students in those categories. But lowly RAs apparently merited less pay.DJMhttp://moritzlaw.osu.edu/faculty/bios.php?ID=38noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-91099642301788004952012-05-18T18:06:19.295-07:002012-05-18T18:06:19.295-07:00@Anonymous of 5:45 PM
As a former student, I am l...@Anonymous of 5:45 PM<br /><br />As a former student, I am likewise confused by the invective. On the one hand, Prof. Hills's public reprimand of a would-be RA showed that he is out of touch with real world economics. However, being out of touch is par for the course for a) most law school faculty I know, and b) NYU faculty in particular. After all, THEY didn't drop a quarter million on their education into the headwinds of a catastrophically imploded hiring market. <br /><br />That said, Prof. Hills was, without question in my mind, my second favorite law prof at NYU. Yeah, I thought he could barely see the ground from his ivory tower, but it didn't stop him from being a fantastic teacher and generally outstanding guy. Frankly, the "arrogance of this man is offensive to me" comments (tdennis239, 5:48 PM) make no sense. I spent a semester with the guy, and I'd do it again. He might be elitist (um, he's a professor... they're all elitist), but to claim he seeks to "exploit" his students is taking things too far. He clearly cared about teaching.<br /><br />Side note (and free advice to NYU): having fellow students--attending on a full-ride scholarship--hit you up for money is just another, particularly irritating, example of out-of-touchness at NYU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-84675455736556346382012-05-18T17:52:04.227-07:002012-05-18T17:52:04.227-07:00Ahh, the one percenters,
I went to law school in...Ahh, the one percenters, <br /><br />I went to law school in the 80's back when it made some kind of sense to do so, particularly at the T14 I attended. <br /><br />I was a law review editor and did about as well academically as one could imagine. A surprise to me, since I spent my undergraduate years on athletic scholarship and spent very limited time prior to law school studying. <br /><br />I was then from a mostly unemployed single mother home, having been raised in one of our large industrial cities. I was amused at my one percenter fellow law review editors, all good liberals and progressives to a one, except me. And I wasn't all that conservative, only fiscally so - I fit for the most part right in on social issues. These one percenters, virtually all from one percenter (or even wealthier) homes, arrogantly and condescendingly spoke of what was good for the poor, good for minorities, good for unions, and so on. They were really persuaded of the value of spending other people's hard earned money. Yet they had no life experience being poor, did not spend real time around minorities (my Division 1 sport had many, many black athletes), and sure as heck never were in a union (I was with the Teamsters for a factory job and the UFCW for a slaughterhouse job), and could not view them in any sort of knowledgeable or balanced way. I never saw such hypocrisy, and couldn't believe how out of touch they were with people who truly struggled. (When you live on the edge, yes, you need luck, but what you really need most of all is to make good life decisions because you have very little margin for error, a concept that eluded them completely because they viewed the poor (and minorities) as fatally incapable of doing better). Of course, some might think I am generalizing here or that my information is merely anecdotal, but remember, these law review kingpins are the ones who have tenure in law schools, and who are now firmly established in educational institutions, in many cases mastering the art of rent seeking better than a Government bureaucrat. They had already mastered, too the art of following the herd, no doubt to the delight of their law school professors, who lived in the progressive echo chamber where remarkably little dissent was tolerated. <br /><br />I cringe today when I hear one of them refer to people of lesser social stature (particularly Southerners or Christians), because they really don't know them and the ad hominem name calling is the most corrosive form of intellectual engagement. And I cringe when they are insensitive to the plight of students today, who somehow feel compelled to slug out 200k in law school debt because they believe the economy holds so little promise for them without a professional degree. <br /><br />I made my fellow law reviewers very uncomfortable. I suspect my posting here might do the same. But my own lousy background drove home to me that one of the highest callings is to make certain that young people, and in particular young people in the years 18-25 in today's complex and difficult global economy, always have someone in their corner. And it strikes me as a good thing to hold educators to that standard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-51565907422880269992012-05-18T17:50:35.202-07:002012-05-18T17:50:35.202-07:00But maybe my grumpiness is just the irritated ennu...But maybe my grumpiness is just the irritated ennui brought on by grading 90 exams. Consider the following interaction, and tell me whether I am wrong to think that kids nowadays are unusually callow and immature.<br /><br />Can anyone tell me if this is an example of what psychologists' call "projection"?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01659995537790248686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-50087608200617404172012-05-18T17:48:22.263-07:002012-05-18T17:48:22.263-07:00@DJM
Thank you for your kind words. Yes, the tria...@DJM<br />Thank you for your kind words. Yes, the trial went fairly well. The defendant finally came up with enough money to settle the case while the jury was still out. (I thought that happened only in the movies.)<br /><br />I am thicker than usual. It did not dawn on me until you pointed it out that the multiple RAs reference could have been a belated attempt to disguise the identity of the actual RA and thus, avoid the potential FERPA violation exposure.<br /><br />And yes, I would like to cross-exam him. Actually, I would just like to see him sitting at the defendant's table in Federal Court. The arrogance of this man is offensive to me; I can only imagine how it seems to someone such as yourself and Mr.Campos who clearly see teaching as a calling; not as an opportunity to exploit your students.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01659995537790248686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-27693764897850416532012-05-18T17:45:45.755-07:002012-05-18T17:45:45.755-07:00A counter to all of this invective:
Having been a...A counter to all of this invective:<br /><br />Having been a student of Prof. Hills in law school, I have nothing but the fondest memories of him. He is one of the nicest professors I have ever had in my academic career. He spent a lot of time helping students, and you got the feeling from him that he really loved to teach. He was always available for us, and spent a lot of time doing extra work (for example, writing additional practice problems for our Admin class every week to help us understand the material, and drawing up flowcharts to help us with final preparation).<br /><br />What he did here was completely wrongheaded. But I would urge the other commenters to view this as a serious lapse of judgment from an otherwise outstanding professor, rather than indicative of his character. He was my favorite professor in law school and it pains me to see him treated like this.<br /><br />His apology post, in my mind, is much closer to the Professor Hills I know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-17501206733973082052012-05-18T16:59:19.015-07:002012-05-18T16:59:19.015-07:004:56: are you talking about Campos or Hills? Link...4:56: are you talking about Campos or Hills? Link to ATL post?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-35207771901773946532012-05-18T16:56:48.809-07:002012-05-18T16:56:48.809-07:00Speaking of out of touch law professors, is it tru...Speaking of out of touch law professors, is it true as reported at Above the Law in January that you are such a bad teacher and so uninterested in students, that you were reprimanded last year and told to improve?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-22856601316222859652012-05-18T16:48:54.652-07:002012-05-18T16:48:54.652-07:00God forbid someone goes postal, as one commenter a...God forbid someone goes postal, as one commenter above has alluded to. That would be a great tragedy and terribly wrong.<br /><br />Democracy and Capitalism are fine, so long as there are checks and balances in place.<br /><br />One such check would be the restoration of consumer bankruptcy protections for student loan debt, which shouldn't have been taken away in the first place.<br /><br />I have nothing against the wealthy, or well paid corporate officers that have earned their income. Talent and effort should have its rewards.<br /><br />This is not the French Revolution against a Monarchy. It is more like a need for correction against a new type of Robber Baron Capitalism, which Alexis De Tocqueville correctly predicted would be an inherent problem in the American Democratic system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com