tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post2162909938486975176..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: RegressLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-13656005784787549472011-10-06T14:43:24.503-07:002011-10-06T14:43:24.503-07:00Perhaps a more appropriate Simpsons line:
Burns: ...Perhaps a more appropriate Simpsons line:<br /><br />Burns: Smithers, are they booing?<br />Smithers: No, they're saying boo-urns.BL1Yhttp://www.constitutionaldaily.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-6907078805511862042011-10-06T14:43:03.533-07:002011-10-06T14:43:03.533-07:00heh that was a great scene.heh that was a great scene.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-87614679765513775572011-10-06T14:02:30.905-07:002011-10-06T14:02:30.905-07:00Better quote from that Simpsons ep - gentlemen, to...Better quote from that Simpsons ep - gentlemen, to evil.anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-53862524528908965982011-10-06T13:40:09.218-07:002011-10-06T13:40:09.218-07:00By all means, let's take as much time as neces...By all means, let's take as much time as necessary to ensure that transparency is fair to <i>law schools</i>.<br /><br />I mean, we shouldn't rush into anything, solely because of 25,000+ underemployed or unemployed law graduates being made every year. It would be so unfair if transparency made 90% of law schools look like the most efficient engines possible for creating non-dischargeable unsecured debt with no prospects of repayment. Christ, where would your average law professor find employment suitable to their lifestyle and dignity? Won't someone think of them?Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02282378622563612578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-83846160148849271912011-10-06T12:56:06.777-07:002011-10-06T12:56:06.777-07:00Ill have to look that one up. Interesting. Could b...Ill have to look that one up. Interesting. Could be a mix of both along with other stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-35035054433267793122011-10-06T12:07:57.320-07:002011-10-06T12:07:57.320-07:00Stockholm syndrome makes sense when students don&#...Stockholm syndrome makes sense when students don't give their crappy professors crappy reviews.<br /><br />But, for law schools, it's more of a sunk cost fallacy. We are psychologically programmed to want to justify our actions. If you spend three years and a lot of money doing something, your instinct is to think it was worthwhile. Spend another 5-10 years working in a job you hate, and you'll come up with a reason for why it's a worthwhile, meaningful job.BL1Yhttp://www.constitutionaldaily.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-39499483786958678642011-10-06T11:56:14.966-07:002011-10-06T11:56:14.966-07:00BL1Y, see specifically 17:55 when the person who y...BL1Y, see specifically 17:55 when the person who you would analogize to the law school Dean slaps the people you would analogize to the professors and says "I thought you said you broke their spirits!"<br /><br />Abusing your victims until, out of fear, they accept a warped sense of fairness is a classic psychological aspect of any scam. See also the Stockholm syndrome. Actual psychologists could probably do a better job of explaining the dynamic than I could.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-72123572720984783392011-10-06T11:51:20.121-07:002011-10-06T11:51:20.121-07:00You're supposed to say "worst episode eve...You're supposed to say "worst episode ever."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-84578755323973935742011-10-06T11:06:39.970-07:002011-10-06T11:06:39.970-07:00@9:54: The Kamp Krusty episode really wasn't a...@9:54: The Kamp Krusty episode really wasn't a very good analogy. Now I've just watched an entire Simpson's episode for NOTHING!BL1Yhttp://www.constitutionaldaily.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-64522481755601047652011-10-06T09:54:24.048-07:002011-10-06T09:54:24.048-07:00The reason students are abused in class for saying...The reason students are abused in class for saying "something stupid" (that is often not stupid at all) is because a classic scammer's technique is to abuse their victims so as to break their will. <br /><br />The Simpsons did a great episode on this (the Camp Krusty episode). You can watch it here.<br />http://www.watchcartoononline.com/the-simpsons-episode-401-kamp-krusty<br /><br />Of course, you have the power to get these schools back and fix the injustice, but I guess the movement isn't ready for level of physical confrontation yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-72094065560033006082011-10-06T09:39:13.218-07:002011-10-06T09:39:13.218-07:00I have hard time understating how it is that if yo...I have hard time understating how it is that if you say something stupid in class, it is likely you will be told you are a fool. But this people are allowed to say bullshit to media, and those responses are treat as a legitimate point.<br /><br /> the real question to ask Prager is who goes to a professional school to get a side or a temp job? For some reason I feel like it is safe to assume that everyone comes here with the idea that they want full time he required job, with a few exceptions of course. She is trying to make it sound that not getting full time job is a reasonable alternative. <br /><br />this is a fucking clown showmadstudentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-47067099425766229792011-10-06T09:25:29.354-07:002011-10-06T09:25:29.354-07:00And this is exactly why they need to be sued. Mor...And this is exactly why they need to be sued. Moral suasion is worthless when dealing with people this venal.Morse Code for Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533833808776688455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-13123565136518773532011-10-06T08:16:47.848-07:002011-10-06T08:16:47.848-07:00@FOARP -- Thanks for the link. That's an amaz...@FOARP -- Thanks for the link. That's an amazing letter. I wouldn't have believed how much the university is taking if the info had not come from the dean himself.Lemuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15472255526491496651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-9358112546480403552011-10-06T08:12:47.255-07:002011-10-06T08:12:47.255-07:00Re: Progress and Regress.
It's all progress i...Re: Progress and Regress.<br /><br />It's all progress in the sense that you are dealing with unconscionable criminals with zero sense of shame, who couldn't give a crap how many petitions, news articles, lawsuits or other paperwork appears against them -- so long as they're getting their money. See e.g. the ABA committee (filled with TTT deans) that recently voted to CHANGE THE RULES TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, by no longer distinguishing between legal/nonlegal and full/parttime jobs when reporting employment data.<br /><br />How is this progress? Because at some point - hopefully - at some point you people are going to realize what type of person you're dealing with and you will take it to the next level.<br /><br />Until these Deans are forced to use security guards to physically beat and abuse protesters (and please don't think they'll have any qualms about that) in front of media cameras, this battle isn't going to get real.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-20085104373121082642011-10-06T07:47:18.554-07:002011-10-06T07:47:18.554-07:00Plus, for anyone wondering about the justification...Plus, for anyone wondering about the justification behind high tuition fees, this resignation letter from Dean Closius at the University of Baltimore lays out in graphic detail exactly what happens to the tuition fees paid by law students there: <br /><br />http://www.lawschooltransparency.com/lawsuits/exhibits/Exh.%205%20-%20Dean%20Closius%20Resignation%20Letter.pdfGilman Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06607416440240634159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-70995290623067187272011-10-06T07:41:27.430-07:002011-10-06T07:41:27.430-07:00"Susan Westerberg Prager, executive director ...<i>"Susan Westerberg Prager, executive director of the Association of American Law Schools"</i><br /><br />IOW, a shill for the law-school industry.Lemuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15472255526491496651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-26894861335073804782011-10-06T07:40:09.038-07:002011-10-06T07:40:09.038-07:00" . . . not studied the proposal of the Law S...<b>" . . . not studied the proposal of the Law School Transparency group enough to know whether it was a good one"</b><br /><br />And, pray-tell, just how long does that take? I mean, the relevant section of the proposal is about a couple of pages long - but then I guess law school deans aren't used to reading documents and providing comments on them.Gilman Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06607416440240634159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-53744991090900089912011-10-06T07:40:06.884-07:002011-10-06T07:40:06.884-07:00Oh good grief. Nothing but straw men arguments and...Oh good grief. Nothing but straw men arguments and avoiding the issue. No one is claiming that employment at a business or government isn't a good career. Nor did she make any attempt to reconcile the price of law school with the outcomes it produces for it's students.EricEsqnoreply@blogger.com