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Move on to the experienced statistics for Chicago, and it will be apparent that many grads have suffered a bloodbath. Leiter wants to keep his head in the sand. If he really believes there is no employment crisis in the legal profession, why doesn't he call for a survey of the experienced grads of the T14 schools to prove it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-64272123525372932912012-11-18T17:50:18.370-08:002012-11-18T17:50:18.370-08:00I am howling at a law school that has dramatically...I am howling at a law school that has dramatically hurt both its students and alumni by jacking up costs sky high, bloating enrollment and flooding the market with its grads. I am also howling because top schools like Columbia are not required to disclose ongoing placement information for more experienced grads. Right now, from what I see, Columbia Law School grads, at least many that I know, and grads of similar top schools, are stuck with fractions of a career. A big part of the problem is their flooding the marketplace with new lawyers. A second part of the problem is not acknowledging the huge supply demand imbalance in the job market for experienced graduates of top law schools. The experienced job market needs to be addressed and needs to be fixed, just as the entry level job situation needs to be fixed. However, the experienced job market is right now in the same position that the first year market for lawyers was a few years ago. It is the person's own fault, there is something wrong with them if they are not successfully gainfully employed. In fact, there are probably 166 lawyers for every 100 legal jobs in the experienced job market, based on ABA statistics, and there you have the problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-69295188038836856762012-11-18T14:28:18.646-08:002012-11-18T14:28:18.646-08:00Mister
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Too many people (here and elsewhere on th...Agreed.<br /><br />Too many people (here and elsewhere on the internet) are buying into the latest lie the law schools are selling - that the crisis "really only started in 2008"<br /><br />Baloney.<br /><br />Too many law grads of the last 40 years have vanished from the profession (1 in 6 have dropped their licenses for chrissakes) for the market to have been "healthy" pre-2008.<br /><br />The ABA (in an all-too-rare fit of useful work) says there are approximately 1.25 million currently licensed lawyers in the US -<br /><br />http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/migrated/marketresearch/PublicDocuments/lawyer_demographics_2012_revised.authcheckdam.pdf<br /><br />The ABA also says that in the last 40 years (standard work life from 25 to 65), ABA accredited law schools have graduated approximately 1.5 million JDs -<br /><br />http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/legal_education_and_admissions_to_the_bar/statistics/enrollment_degrees_awarded.authcheckdam.pdf<br /><br />Looking at the big picture -<br /><br />1.5 million JD grads minus 1.25 million licensed equals *250,000* of the "disappeared".<br /><br />17% of this degenerating "profession".cas127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-80629178551933061512012-11-16T12:24:20.938-08:002012-11-16T12:24:20.938-08:00
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Too ...The same problems existied in 1985, as well.<br /><br />Too many lawyers chasing too few jobs is not a new problem. It has been going on ofr a generation or more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-32638487692431479262012-11-16T11:42:02.378-08:002012-11-16T11:42:02.378-08:0012:54 To answer your question, Columbia's taki...12:54 To answer your question, Columbia's taking 90 transfers is a fraud not only on the people who were admitted to that class as a 0L. It is a fraud on my Columbia Law classmates because we went through a much smaller and more selective school. When the school starts taking 90 transfers who had lower academic standing before they started, it is devaluing the Columbia Law degree. It is not that hard to get a Columbia Law degree now. With the transfer game in place, Columbia Law degrees are a dime a dozen in New York. They will not give you an edge in the job market because employers know now that Columbia Law is not necessarily that selective. A Columbia Law degree is caveat emptor for the employer. <br /><br />The other BIG PROBLEM is that Columbia lawyers in New York particularly age out of their jobs - FAST The new classes of graduates take those jobs. If you are a Columbia grad seeking employment and there are simply hundreds of other Columbia grads on the market, it decreases your chances of working.<br /><br />There is a big element of Columbia Law competing with lower ranked schools in New York. Many lower ranked school grads are haves and Columbia grads have nots. <br /><br />In this impossible job environment for lawyers, having Columbia Law pack the class with less qualified transfers and having huge numbers of grads pouring out of the school, is incredibly galling for those of us who are part of Columbia Law School classes where substantial numbers of people have NO EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. We are talking about economic survival here, and Columbia Law's packing its classes with transfers decreases my classmates' chances of survival. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com