tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post1712983039294731830..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: Sarah's problemLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-13854813923035682872012-12-15T12:43:37.623-08:002012-12-15T12:43:37.623-08:00What if Sarah graduated before GRADPlus loans beca...What if Sarah graduated before GRADPlus loans became available and has private student loans on top of federal loans? IBR + private student loans is more than hard to manage. Why weren't the two comments above deleted by the moderator? And where is the best source of long-term employment data? For those lucky enough to get median firm jobs, what happens when they age out?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-59243914046696388532012-12-12T12:04:20.704-08:002012-12-12T12:04:20.704-08:00Law Prof practiced for less than a year. Law Prof practiced for less than a year. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-9356643765127894372012-12-11T02:56:56.875-08:002012-12-11T02:56:56.875-08:00F Sarah. Hey what about Joey Baggodonut and Tyrone...F Sarah. Hey what about Joey Baggodonut and Tyrone Hairlips' problem? Let's talk about the anti unconnected straight schlubby male disrimination that is so prevelant in law's lower/entry levels. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-74332667621381964542012-12-11T02:52:34.910-08:002012-12-11T02:52:34.910-08:00PS: to my unconnected, overweight, unattractive wi...PS: to my unconnected, overweight, unattractive wimmenfolk out there, you might as well forget law too much like the schlubby unconnected males. The devilish powers that be in law, meaning those at the tippy top, meaning baby boomer connected white or jewish males have no use for you either. <br /><br />And Sarah, even if you are hot and seemingly willing to facilitate the sexual needs of your devilish boomer boss, do not count on that lasting over a 20 or 30 year career as you age and your looks fade....but then again, you probably were not concerned with that because you likely went to law school to catch a rich lawyer to put you on the stay at home mommy track in the first place. <br /><br />More uncomfortable truths from the Great John Bungsolaphagus. God bless!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-54780855935572232062012-12-11T02:44:15.450-08:002012-12-11T02:44:15.450-08:00In true lawyer like fashion I cut and paste a pert...In true lawyer like fashion I cut and paste a pertinent quote from above followed by my comments and questions of wisdom as only the great lawland prophet can do: "Sarah's real problem is that she's not getting a job, or if she does get a job it's not paying $60,000, or if it does pay $60,000 she's not going to be able to keep it.".....<br /><br /><br />....those words are the kind of words that 0L lemmings need to see BEFORE the sign the dotted line on those law scam...I mean school.. applications and loan agreements....<br /><br />BUT, now I pose the following question to the would be law lemmings who are unconnected, straight, non WASP and non JEWISH males: What if Sarah had a penis, was not a connected WASP or JEW and was not metro sexual or gay? Are you schlubby unconnected males, white, or even worse, black and straight males even remotely prepared to deal with the very real discrimination against you that exists in most of law? <br /><br />Law is increasingly becoming a business for connected white and jewish women and their metro sexual or gay male allies/minions. "Sarah" at least has a chance...especially if she is at least remedially hot. Tyrone Hairlip or Joey Bagggodounuts do not have a prayer.<br /><br />This has been a warning from the great lawland truthsayer, John J. Bungsolphagus The First writing lawland truths to lemmings and devilish lawland power since 2006.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-55639107376575451322012-12-02T06:58:21.315-08:002012-12-02T06:58:21.315-08:00That, and the larger university too. Think about ...That, and the larger university too. Think about how "cheap" it is to set up a "Samuel L. Bronkowitz School of Law and Catholic Girls in Trouble." Put some books in a library, get the ABA to smile and nod, and viola - huge income stream to the university by taxing the lol skool. ROI is huge, compared to a chemistry department or something else.dupednontraditionalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170022654810216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-14764609155101562232012-12-02T05:24:56.275-08:002012-12-02T05:24:56.275-08:00You can still find a fine lass if you're indeb...You can still find a fine lass if you're indebted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-70624277689087502032012-12-02T02:47:36.924-08:002012-12-02T02:47:36.924-08:00While we see BK for student loans as eminently fai...While we see BK for student loans as eminently fair, it's political poison.<br /><br />Most people have paid off some uncomfortably large bills in their lives, so politicians do not want to be seen as advocating for a break for whiny, entitled students.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-63398563572591595502012-12-02T02:37:10.680-08:002012-12-02T02:37:10.680-08:00When hiring faculty, law professors have a simple ...When hiring faculty, law professors have a simple definition of "qualifications": whatever career path I took.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-66405490526348657882012-12-02T01:44:55.931-08:002012-12-02T01:44:55.931-08:00Six figure debt affects life in other ways as well...Six figure debt affects life in other ways as well, and IBR doesn't change it.<br /><br />Get ready kids, there is the "Debt to Income Ratio" which is stated grounds for rejecting an application for credit, and I have received at least three letters with those exact words: One From Bank of America when applying for a credit card, one from Best Buy when applying for store credit, and one from Wells Fargo when applying for credit to purchase a rug.I applied for credit recently and I am awainting a rejection letter which I bet will have the same words (Excessive obligations in relation to income)<br /><br />The second major problem with such debt is the deterrent to marriage and/or the financial burden such debt can potentially place upon an innocent spouse if assets are accidentally comingled or at least if the loan payments are made out of a joint account. It's a very tricky situation and one article even recommended a prenup. (You can find all this easy enough if you google)<br /><br />And of course the psychological toll of hopeless debt is devastating, especially after the realization that you have thrown away three valuable years of your life, and that the remainder of your life is pretty much ruined.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-15819262226439885792012-12-01T23:49:51.728-08:002012-12-01T23:49:51.728-08:00Au contraire! This subsidy provides PLENTY of good...Au contraire! This subsidy provides PLENTY of goods and services - to law school faculties, that is. <br /><br />Those 200 law schools must have one AMAZING lobbyist. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-52651766447236599312012-12-01T22:21:42.235-08:002012-12-01T22:21:42.235-08:00Schrag's response in the comment section of th...Schrag's response in the comment section of the article shows just that. It basically amounts to "b-b-but eveything else is subsidized too, waaaaaaaaaah stop picking on law school debt, waaaaaaaaaaah"<br /><br />All the other subsidies actually provide goods and services; law school, at its current cost and graduate employment prospects, provides a glut of people who can neither purchase goods nor provide services.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-74182387380457974622012-12-01T21:11:31.361-08:002012-12-01T21:11:31.361-08:00If they didn't have IBR, students would just d...If they didn't have IBR, students would just default. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-57422503343512823792012-12-01T21:05:44.465-08:002012-12-01T21:05:44.465-08:00Yep. My State funds per pupil K - 12 at less then ...Yep. My State funds per pupil K - 12 at less then $7k a year. This is $90k total. Yet, the government and individuals are funding higher Ed at $50k plus a year? For non-technical degrees? Come on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-2883378889335364872012-12-01T20:49:42.658-08:002012-12-01T20:49:42.658-08:00The pigs are starting to defend their criminal beh...The pigs are starting to defend their criminal behavior. Of course, the bastards are still unable to muster actual evidence and facts to bolster their "case." Apparently, "the best and brightest" cannot make a cogent argument as to why law school truly is a wise investment for students.Nandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06423524039657355134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-20034020070787304572012-12-01T20:33:38.300-08:002012-12-01T20:33:38.300-08:00They should force the LAW SCHOOLS to do the lendin...They should force the LAW SCHOOLS to do the lending - and then make THEM offer an IBR-type discharge to the students after 10 years. That'd trim enrollment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-12755981189882519032012-12-01T20:23:24.706-08:002012-12-01T20:23:24.706-08:00What - it was a 90/10 split. The repubs don't...What - it was a 90/10 split. The repubs don't need more than 10% anyway.<br /><br />:-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-37503210631454697982012-12-01T20:16:42.244-08:002012-12-01T20:16:42.244-08:00Am I the only one wondering whether Philip Schrag ...Am I the only one wondering whether Philip Schrag has ever had the nickname "Dish"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-1272235987399687352012-12-01T20:14:25.534-08:002012-12-01T20:14:25.534-08:004:45 while I heartily agree with your main sentime...4:45 while I heartily agree with your main sentiments, I find it very difficult to believe it when you say you're paying over 50% of your gross in taxes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-83507568888805175762012-12-01T19:54:02.180-08:002012-12-01T19:54:02.180-08:00One problem for me is that I have never been prepa...One problem for me is that I have never been prepared to leave my principles at the door. That bodes ill indeed for me in the legal profession, despite the incessant chatter about "ethics" and "justice".<br /><br />Recently a professor advised me to ask the judge for whom I am working to help me to find work in law. I was stunned: it struck me as altogether inappropriate to ask a judge to compromise herself by interceding—most likely with lawyers who might have to appear before her—on behalf of her intern. The professor assured me that this is perfectly appropriate. Perhaps it is, but I still don't buy that, and I haven't approached the judge for assistance.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-79349249093471493912012-12-01T19:45:14.441-08:002012-12-01T19:45:14.441-08:00Very few of my professors have practiced law for m...Very few of my professors have practiced law for more than a year or two; some haven't practiced ever.<br /><br />Meanwhile, the lady who teaches legal writing and research—and works her ass off—doesn't even get the dignity of being called "Professor", despite having a lot more experience as a practitioner than almost anyone else in the law school. She has been on a long series of one-year contracts. Yes, her position comes up for renewal every year even though she has been here for ages.<br /><br />ABA Standard 405(d) states that "[a] law school shall afford legal writing teachers such security of position and other rights and privileges of faculty membership as may be necessary to (1) attract and retain a faculty that is<br />well qualified to provide legal writing instruction as required by Standard 302(a)(3), and (2) safeguard academic freedom". Yet Interpretation 405-9 states that this provision "does not preclude the use of short-term contracts for legal writing teachers". Well, "short-term contracts" doesn't sound much like "security of position" to me.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-40950138384878823222012-12-01T19:40:23.850-08:002012-12-01T19:40:23.850-08:00"some of us think that borrowing a lot of mon..."some of us think that borrowing a lot of money you have neither the intention nor the ability to repay is, well, dishonest. And that advising young people to do this, for your own benefit, is shameful."<br /><br />Highly credited. Thank you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-56435121048851648102012-12-01T19:27:35.400-08:002012-12-01T19:27:35.400-08:00Law Office Computing's comments are well-taken...Law Office Computing's comments are well-taken. This is a terrible idea in that it will make the problem worse not better. We need to find a way to give the schools market incentives to produce an appropriate number of graduates.Edward X. Clinton, Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07858835834397350467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-65454320261018714062012-12-01T18:18:59.680-08:002012-12-01T18:18:59.680-08:00When are people going to realize that relying upon...When are people going to realize that relying upon government programs always has strings attached. Screw IBR. Didn't anyone ever consider that maybe the law schools should just reduce their tuitions? Of course they have, but that's where their own self interest comes takes precedence. Now you have idiots like this Case Western dean spouting off nonsense to keep the gravy train rolling. I hope he's getting paid off by someone for making such ridiculous statements. His talk of law careers lasting 40-50 years only applies IF you are able to get that first job. If you are not employed as a lawyer within 9-12 months after graduation, you are basically damaged goods since a new bumper crop of bushy-eyed law students is available for the pillaging.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-52184577622384578472012-12-01T18:12:08.868-08:002012-12-01T18:12:08.868-08:00The government/law schools WANT you to be a debt s...The government/law schools WANT you to be a debt slave for life so that when the government attempts to impose a digital currency those that are in debt will fall in line. Get ready to bend over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com