tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post1209642225858403144..comments2023-10-30T08:41:06.178-07:00Comments on Inside the Law School Scam: Law and economicsLawProfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05174586969709793419noreply@blogger.comBlogger225125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-61750081726528137982013-02-22T21:42:23.144-08:002013-02-22T21:42:23.144-08:00Hi superb website! Does running a blog like this r...Hi superb website! Does running a blog like this require <br />a massive amount work? I have virtually no knowledge of coding but I was hoping to <br />start my own blog soon. Anyhow, should you have any recommendations or tips for new <br />blog owners please share. I know this is off subject however I simply needed to ask.<br /><br />Thank you!<br /><br />My webpage ... <a href="http://armsoc.org/blogs/entry/low-gi-diet" rel="nofollow">best low carb foods</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-56815456088872790032013-02-08T21:29:32.921-08:002013-02-08T21:29:32.921-08:00Nice post about law and economics posted by LAWPRO...Nice post about law and economics posted by LAWPROFSan Francisco Law Recruiterhttp://www.bcgsearch.com/legalmarketsinfo.php?id=7noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-11925651517087251332013-02-02T12:45:35.890-08:002013-02-02T12:45:35.890-08:00http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/6474289...http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/6474289_460s.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-7358475460279009092013-02-02T05:41:20.950-08:002013-02-02T05:41:20.950-08:00Charlotte school of lawCharlotte school of lawAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-75251814684324929762013-02-02T05:38:53.328-08:002013-02-02T05:38:53.328-08:00Charlotte school of lawCharlotte school of lawAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-31553688532090898462013-02-02T00:51:00.665-08:002013-02-02T00:51:00.665-08:00"His image should be hung in every student lo..."His image should be hung in every student lounge in every toilet law school." LOL!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-59572674044387117902013-02-02T00:46:54.044-08:002013-02-02T00:46:54.044-08:00Thanks for sharing. I've never paid dues to th...Thanks for sharing. I've never paid dues to the ABA after my first free year and I haven't read the ABA Journal in years. Truly, this article is comedy. http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/working_for_free/<br /><br />The second child of a casino industry executive and a schoolteacher who’ve been married 44 years, Lowenhar-Fisher grew up in New Jersey, with doting grandparents nearby. She’s so close with her parents that after graduating from Emory University School of Law she followed them to Las Vegas, where they moved for her father’s career.<br /><br />Married to an IT consultant she met on JDate, Lowenhar-Fisher is also the mother of a 2-year-old son. Shortly after he was born, her in-laws moved to Las Vegas to be near their grandson. The differences between her background and those of her pro bono clients, Lowenhar-Fisher notes, are striking.<br /><br />“I can’t imagine what it would feel like to be affirmatively rejected by your parents,” says the lawyer, who serves as her firm’s pro bono coordinator in addition to her work with gaming industry clients. “These kids are put in a lousy, awful, unimaginable position—to make these very adult choices they shouldn’t have to be making.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-68731349180904250802013-02-01T19:18:31.345-08:002013-02-01T19:18:31.345-08:00@8:48 and 8:50 AM:
I am very aware of the necessi...@8:48 and 8:50 AM:<br /><br />I am very aware of the necessity of legal research; I've worked on enough appellate briefs to appreciate the value of thoroughly researching a point of law. My point is different: it's not about what's required to adequately represent a client, it's what the attorney should be allowed to bill for, and 20 hours of research probably doesn't lie in that category. It's too easy to pad a bill through research, or to reward poor research skills (if it takes me 15 minutes to find cases that it takes you 5 hours, and we bill the same rate, that means I'm getting paid 20 times less than you for the same job).Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01310705673888220968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-27184207790300575852013-02-01T14:59:02.297-08:002013-02-01T14:59:02.297-08:00In another blog I frequent, they've been refer...In another blog I frequent, they've been referring to him as Bergabe (BERnanke MuGABE) since he introduced quantitative easing back in 2008.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-12863767398875536602013-02-01T08:20:39.276-08:002013-02-01T08:20:39.276-08:00@ 9:22, it's 7:51 here.
It is hard to say how ...@ 9:22, it's 7:51 here.<br />It is hard to say how many have profited, but it is clearly over 50%. The problem is that many experienced people are unemployed now with no place to go or are hanging out their own shingle. I would say that is at least a quarter to a third of those with 10-25 years experience. For most of my colleagues, it is not possible to transition back to engineering or science because too many years have gone by. This is an example of how nasty the law school really is....no one ever tells the 0Ls the reality of just how unstable law is as a long term "career."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-37594480446378303842013-02-01T06:42:23.213-08:002013-02-01T06:42:23.213-08:00FOARP:
How many people do serious FTO searching -...FOARP:<br /><br />How many people do serious FTO searching - it has always struck me as a bad idea in general - an a hard to bound problem - a bit like pushing on a piece of string?MacKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10442386017204584747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-65970583054864362522013-02-01T05:34:26.643-08:002013-02-01T05:34:26.643-08:00I am a patent lawyer too. It used to be a great li...I am a patent lawyer too. It used to be a great line of work and very profitable. Not anymore even in Canada. Look at this Nigerian monday<br />www.torontobarristers.com<br />he does everything from PI to IP and everything in between. His background is in soft arts and he never took a single class of hard science or engineering. Yet he claims that he is a patent lawyer. No wonder that the Law Society got involved.http://www.lsuc.on.ca/uploadedFiles/For_the_Public/Hearings_and_Discipline/Regulatory_Proceedings/Current_Hearings_and_Regulatory_Notices/Opara%20LCN60-12%20NOA%20May24-12.pdf<br /><br />But how do you compete with this kind of shysters?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-84264941977576810562013-02-01T04:49:20.015-08:002013-02-01T04:49:20.015-08:00It was kind of fitting that GW bought Mount Vernon...It was kind of fitting that GW bought Mount Vernon College, which was renown in the mid-Atlantic wealthy classes as the place you sent your dimmer daughters - I forget the male turkey farm - it was usually some military academy. In the UK the equivalent is Cirencester Agricultural College whose mostly male graduates are mocked as monumentally dim, Barbour wearing hooray-henrys.<br /><br />It is not that unfair, the young ladies who went to Mount Vernon always seemed very social, very well coiffed, present at the opening of an envelope - but the peroxide seemed to have gotten into their brains because, holy crap were they dumb. It was like a giant sorority in Northwest DC. <br /><br />GW's role is a bit more complex though. I agree that Trachtenberg was a self aggrandising dick, but...<br /><br />Up until the 1970s DC colleges choices were driven by wealth and discrimination. The split went white/black and protestant/catholic/jewish and finally go away to college/stay in DC.<br /><br />So to take the go-away group first - wealthier families tended to send their kids to the alma mater - Yale, Princeton, Harvard, maybe UVa. Georgetown was sort of the Catholic Harvard when catholics were not particularly welcome in Wasp institutions (ever wonder why Georgetown and Notre Dame are not in the Ivy League - they existed when it was established but were not invited because it was a sports league for gentlemen's colleges and ....) Anyway, within DC you had two tiers of colleges in each category - protestant was GW and American Methodist University (now American University - hence the W-AMU call sign for the radio station). GW was considered a better school but more for strivers, AU was always considered as for the slightly dumber kids - and both competed with the out of town colleges. Catholic was Georgetown and Catholic University of America- Georgetown for the wealthy and Catholic for the more working class (plus a good few blacks went to CUA even then.) Then the black schools were Antioch and UDC.<br /><br />This whole edifice started to fall apart in the 60s after Kennedy was elected as wealthier DC protestants started to go to Georgetown, ignoring the fact that it was "catholic." This was when Trachtenberg showed up and decided that he had to reposition GW, which to be fair the the jerk, was in bad shape when he took over. That repositioning is pretty well as you describe it being now.MacKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10442386017204584747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-10174613158818321662013-02-01T04:08:18.552-08:002013-02-01T04:08:18.552-08:00This is a little complicated. The patent lawyers ...This is a little complicated. The patent lawyers I know all make a very good living - most have physics degrees (as I do, but with a heavy chemistry and math element), a lot of the others are EEs. What is great about IP law is- if you enjoy the law and find it interesting - and you are fascinated by technology, and you like business and economics - and you lean international in what you like doing - you can put it all together - you can have an international technology and IP based legal practice. But to do that you genuinely have to be interested in the subject matter.<br /><br />The problem with some patent lawyers though is that they went into patent law because they did not like the scientific discipline they were in, or the engineering work they did - not because they wanted to be patent lawyers and like a lot of liberal arts grads decided to become lawyers au défaut de mieux. This group tends to do more poorly, because they are neither genuinely interested in the law, or in the technology they work on. Actually, in general those who go to law school, au défaut de mieux, are miserable and bored in law school, miserable in practice and wearying to deal with, and usually seem to be the screamers among partners and in-house.MacKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10442386017204584747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-14213640524494566772013-02-01T03:44:20.145-08:002013-02-01T03:44:20.145-08:00RE: Prepaid - my favourite experience with a prepa...RE: Prepaid - my favourite experience with a prepaid client at my previous job at a patent firm in Japan was one who, in response to our cost-estimate and a request for pre-payment for handling a Japanese OA asked us if he could reduce the cost by re-using arguments from the corresponding US case. We sent back a letter telling him our cost estimate for answering his question and asking pre-payment.Gilman Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06607416440240634159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-31830924843592649002013-02-01T03:23:31.900-08:002013-02-01T03:23:31.900-08:00I'd like to know what went on behind closed do...I'd like to know what went on behind closed doors to get the ABA to sign off on offshoring. I bet there were plenty of threats thrown around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-46057602360254115932013-02-01T01:31:03.108-08:002013-02-01T01:31:03.108-08:00BoredJD, do you really think there should be a two...BoredJD, do you really think there should be a two-tier system in which only those who can afford Lamborghinis get them? Surely this is an area in which the government should make access available to all by giving non-discharable through bankruptcy loans for hundreds of thousands of dollars to anyone who asks for them? Gilman Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06607416440240634159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-30133107508243956032013-02-01T01:12:42.755-08:002013-02-01T01:12:42.755-08:00We need different categories maybe by ranking.
...We need different categories maybe by ranking. <br />And then by location<br />I vote we at least create one top trap school award<br />Most opaque statistics award<br />Most likely to close first award<br />Scammiest dean in terms of salary v. Placement: New e gland<br />School that brought in the most cash with the lowest employment rate:<br />School with worst stipulations on scholarships<br />School with most people losing scholarships<br />School with LRAP that no one really qualifies for<br />School with most lies on website <br />Schools whose dean made the most out of touch plea for law school being worth the money<br />Most annoying dean trying to camouflage scamming: dean zsusanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10630859000707280220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-31458747102347226362013-02-01T00:39:47.945-08:002013-02-01T00:39:47.945-08:00Yep. Some old people were telling me that they tho...Yep. Some old people were telling me that they thought the government would soon be raising the Social Security retirement age. I just laughed and told them that with the way things are going, they might actually LOWER the retirement age to 40. Why not? There's 100 million votes in it, easy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-62743652248364594252013-02-01T00:26:36.687-08:002013-02-01T00:26:36.687-08:00I'll bite:
"how many patent lawyers from...I'll bite:<br /><br /><b>"how many patent lawyers from 20 years ago have financially profited from their career change and earnIng a JD?"</b><br /><br />Some, not all.<br /><br /><b>"how many try to transition back into engineering from patent law?"</b><br /><br />Few. The problem is by the time you've been in patenting for a while you become essentially de-skilled as an engineer even if you keep up with the tech, and nobody will take you back if you try. I do know patent attorneys who are now doing work that previously would be left to a trainee and essentially doesn't require the opinion of a qualified lawyer (FTO searching, statistical analysis etc.).Gilman Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06607416440240634159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-24306919112863016192013-02-01T00:20:13.166-08:002013-02-01T00:20:13.166-08:00The kvetching over poor people having cell phones ...The kvetching over poor people having cell phones drives me nuts. It shows a startling lack of how people actually live below the poverty line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-90916319295290700932013-01-31T23:41:19.350-08:002013-01-31T23:41:19.350-08:00Looking at TLS you see many of these people seem t...Looking at TLS you see many of these people seem to be having fun jostling and striving to get into law school. Its a game for many of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-33638122863484925592013-01-31T23:27:46.581-08:002013-01-31T23:27:46.581-08:00The Oscar for Biggest Scam goes to . . . .
The Ge...The Oscar for Biggest Scam goes to . . . .<br /><br />The George Washington University.<br /><br />What sets GWU apart from rivals is the fact that <br /><br />(1) at one time, it was an affordable commuter school that served the niche of training government lawyers and the odd congressman or senator, but <br /><br />(2) former President Stephen Trachtenberg -- following the example of his mentor John Silber of Boston University -- decided to transform the school into a superficial playground that vacuumed up the money of wealthy parents with not-bright-enough kids as well as the loan money of middle-class parents duped by their marketing materials. <br /><br />While Cooley and New England and Phoenix were conceived to take advantage of the scam, GWU served a lauditory purposed -- which was dismantled because the scam was more lucrative.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-44050927960343516982013-01-31T23:27:24.551-08:002013-01-31T23:27:24.551-08:00I had to laugh - I got scammed by both of these. A...I had to laugh - I got scammed by both of these. At least in grad school there's less debtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5164886390834386622.post-56666016381287499522013-01-31T23:24:51.508-08:002013-01-31T23:24:51.508-08:00I had to laugh - I managed to hit both of those sc...I had to laugh - I managed to hit both of those scams. PhD early 90's and JD 09. At least grad school was more or less free because they paid you $500 a month or so to live in squalor, eat ramen, and do all the actual teaching of undergrads.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com